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2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck

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dxmnkd316 said:
True. What are they at now? $75k?
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Probably. The high school I went to was only $4K in 1987. By the time I graduated, the price had doubled. Now it is over $26K/year. For high school. So much for sending my nephew there. We played a tournament at St. Mark's in MA. Tuition there was $24K in 1990. I weep to think what it is now. Gorgeous campus though.

The cost of my high school education was more than the cost of my college education. Go figure.

Edit: Less than I thought: $58,607 for tuition, room, board and fees combined. What a bargain! Hell, the room and board in Boston might be worth it!
 
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Priceless said:
Probably. The high school I went to was only $4K in 1987. By the time I graduated, the price had doubled. Now it is over $26K/year. For high school. So much for sending my nephew there. We played a tournament at St. Mark's in MA. Tuition there was $24K in 1990. I weep to think what it is now. Gorgeous campus though.

The cost of my high school education was more than the cost of my college education. Go figure.

Edit: Less than I thought: $58,607 for tuition, room, board and fees combined. What a bargain! Hell, the room and board in Boston might be worth it!
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I really couldn't find justification for paying that much for high school. That's crazy.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
I really couldn't find justification for paying that much for high school. That's crazy.
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It is, but people pay it. Our top graduates go to the Ivy Leagues. For one kid, Yale was his "safety" school (he applied to Oxford). My class reunion would be a PITA now. From 42 kids we have eight lawyers and six doctors. We also have a rocket scientist. An actual rocket scientist, not a joke. He went to MIT and worked for NASA before going to Boeing. Two or three others made a fortune on Wall St (one convinced his father to invest his college fund in a little company called Intel). Even students who muddle through can get into decent colleges. And the curriculum is tough. Many of our advanced classes make 100 and 200 level courses in college seem like child's play. Back when tuition was cheap (and the town paid most of it because we had no high school) it made sense. Now...just insane.
 
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I guess. I just think that with the right attitude, you can still make it just fine without paying a small fortune. We had a girl who went to Hopkins on a major scholarship and had her targets set on neurosurgery last I heard, one kid went on to play in the NHL, I can think of at least a dozen doctors, a half-dozen lawyers, I went on to be a chemical engineer, no Wall St. whales that I can think of though. The grade below me had a kid who went on to work at Boeing. I know back when I went to my school, it was near the top in terms of education. If you wanted to take an AP class, they offered it or you could work with the teachers and get it through after hours classes or during the summer. I think I ended up getting into Minnesota with 50 or so credits. And our school was comparatively small. Maybe 200-250 graduates in my class.

I think it's what you make of it. Granted, it's easier at a school like the one you're describing, but another $25k on top of paying for public too? Yikes. I'd rather save up and pay for my kid's tuition in college. I think the problem I have with many of the private schools around here is that they are all faith-based. I think there are a few magnet schools, but none that I can recall off the top of my head. Not sure what they run.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
I think it's what you make of it. Granted, it's easier at a school like the one you're describing, but another $25k on top of paying for public too? Yikes. I'd rather save up and pay for my kid's tuition in college. I think the problem I have with many of the private schools around here is that they are all faith-based. I think there are a few magnet schools, but none that I can recall off the top of my head. Not sure what they run.
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There are a few magnet schools around the area, and those get paid at least partially through public funds. My oldest niece's school was a magnet school in St. Paul that went through the Science Museum of MN. I don't know if it was a K-12 school or if it ended at 8th grade as my brother's family moved to Apple Valley prior to then. The MN Zoo has a magnet program for enviromental sciences through ISD 196, students have to apply in order to attend, first opened for the class of '97. Beyond those two I don't know of any others.
 
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Oj myy God. I tred to plaay the "take sa shot evrytmie thye clap" game. I fcuked upp.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Oj myy God. I tred to plaay the "take sa shot evrytmie thye clap" game. I fcuked upp.
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It's been getting worse every year. They should do it like debates: please save your applause for the end.
 
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Who bothers watching the State of the Union address anymore? It's been a long time since I've seen anything substantive come out of one. I guess it still has its place, but it's little more than a higher profile opportunity for the President to push his agenda again, which it sounds like is what he did last night (no surprise there).
 
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Bob Gray said:
Who bothers watching the State of the Union address anymore? It's been a long time since I've seen anything substantive come out of one. I guess it still has its place, but it's little more than a higher profile opportunity for the President to push his agenda again, which it sounds like is what he did last night (no surprise there).
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I think I watched 2 of Obama's and 1 of Dubya's (anybody remember "Let's Go To Mars!"?). I agree it's become an empty photo op, not just for the president but also for the opposition to sit on their hands and pout.

The "place" it has is it's Constitutionally-mandated. :p

He shall from time to time give to the Congress information of the state of the union, and recommend to their consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient;
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US Const. art. II, sec. 3, cl. 1

You'll have to give it in 2017, but don't worry, we've already got the text.
 
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Kepler said:
I think I watched 2 of Obama's and 1 of Dubya's (anybody remember "Let's Go To Mars!"?). I agree it's become an empty photo op, not just for the president but also for the opposition to sit on their hands and pout.

The "place" it has is it's Constitutionally-mandated. :p

US Const. art. II, sec. 3, cl. 1

You'll have to give it in 2017, but don't worry, we've already got the text.
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A president could show up, read from a newspaper or news magazine and fulfill the rquirements of the Constitution. The pols make a big deal out of it because it's free press. Free press = free agenda advertisement.
 
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Kepler said:
I think I watched 2 of Obama's and 1 of Dubya's (anybody remember "Let's Go To Mars!"?). I agree it's become an empty photo op, not just for the president but also for the opposition to sit on their hands and pout.

The "place" it has is it's Constitutionally-mandated. :p

US Const. art. II, sec. 3, cl. 1

You'll have to give it in 2017, but don't worry, we've already got the text.
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Can't he just send an e-mail? Providing information sounds pretty broad in its wording. Of course if we want to be strict to what the writers of the Constitution intended, they probably weren't thinking of e-mail!

I guess there was a day when the pols didn't go at it 24/7/365, but now the state of the union is just another partisanfest.
 
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Bob Gray said:
I guess there was a day when the pols didn't go at it 24/7/365, but now the state of the union is just another partisanfest.
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Anything televised immediately becomes Honey Where Are My Pants? Pols actually do real work off camera... until the inevitable corruption that comes with opacity. Those are the two horns of the dilemma.

I think the best thing we could do with Congress is turn off the cameras. We'd still have the Congressional Record for those 3 people who care enough to do diligent oversight, and the Members would not have to spend every second thumping the tub for Cletus Spuckler.
 
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