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2nd Term Part 4: Donkeys, Elephants, and Porcupines

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joecct said:
Federal Workers Told to Report Each Other for Leaks, http://fxn.ws/14aMZUk
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Big Brother is watching :mad:

Speaking of leaks, Snowden has been charged with espionage and theft.

Federal prosecutors have filed a sealed criminal complaint against Edward Snowden, the former National Security Agency contractor who leaked a trove of documents about top-secret surveillance programs, and the United States has asked Hong Kong to detain him on a provisional arrest warrant, according to U.S. officials.
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LynahFan said:
:confused: If you saw someone with access to sensitive information acting suspiciously, what kind of creep *wouldn't* report it? That's just basic common sense.
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Once the camel's nose gets under the tent flap, the camel is sure to follow. It seems like a good idea dealing with security items, but what if you drop a semi epithet that offends someone? Will you be hauled off to a reeducation camp to make sure that you speak and think correctly? Fired?

Talk on the phone to your brother in law and tell him a story about the idiots you work for. Give him an example. Melvin from accounting overhears your conversation (cubicle land) and reports his suspicions that you are informing on the company. Off to HR and Internal Security!

We have to always be reminded of the law of unintended consequences and well meaning ideas.
 
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joecct said:
Talk on the phone to your brother in law and tell him a story about the idiots you work for. Give him an example. Melvin from accounting overhears your conversation (cubicle land) and reports his suspicions that you are informing on the company. Off to HR and Internal Security!
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If you're stupid enough to bad mouth the company while at work, on company time, and where any co-worker could overhear you...
Should the company be spying on you or encouraging tattling to that extent? Probably not. But just like when people get fired for posting stupid shiat on their Facebook page, it's tough to get that upset over it. Personal responsibility and all that, right?
 
joecct said:
Once the camel's nose gets under the tent flap, the camel is sure to follow. It seems like a good idea dealing with security items, but what if you drop a semi epithet that offends someone? Will you be hauled off to a reeducation camp to make sure that you speak and think correctly? Fired?

Talk on the phone to your brother in law and tell him a story about the idiots you work for. Give him an example. Melvin from accounting overhears your conversation (cubicle land) and reports his suspicions that you are informing on the company. Off to HR and Internal Security!

We have to always be reminded of the law of unintended consequences and well meaning ideas.
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Jeezuz, I wouldn't even know where to start.
 
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unofan said:
If you're stupid enough to bad mouth the company while at work, on company time, and where any co-worker could overhear you...
Should the company be spying on you or encouraging tattling to that extent? Probably not. But just like when people get fired for posting stupid shiat on their Facebook page, it's tough to get that upset over it. Personal responsibility and all that, right?
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Reinhard Heydrich would agree.
 
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joecct said:
Once the camel's nose gets under the tent flap, the camel is sure to follow. It seems like a good idea dealing with security items, but what if you drop a semi epithet that offends someone? Will you be hauled off to a reeducation camp to make sure that you speak and think correctly? Fired?

Talk on the phone to your brother in law and tell him a story about the idiots you work for. Give him an example. Melvin from accounting overhears your conversation (cubicle land) and reports his suspicions that you are informing on the company. Off to HR and Internal Security!

We have to always be reminded of the law of unintended consequences and well meaning ideas.
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I thought we were talking about Federal workers exhibiting actually suspicious behavior. How did you leap to epithets and HR? At least you managed to pull yourself up just short of satisfying Godwin, unlike OP.
 
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LynahFan said:
I thought we were talking about Federal workers exhibiting actually suspicious behavior. How did you leap to epithets and HR? At least you managed to pull yourself up just short of satisfying Godwin, unlike OP.
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Would it have caused you less agita, precious, if I'd said "Lavrentiy Beria"?
 
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Speaking of Beria, it appears that Mr. Snowden is on his way to Moscow.

I wonder if V. V. Putin wants the same data mining systems as we use? He'd just use the results differently.
 
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joecct said:
Speaking of Beria, it appears that Mr. Snowden is on his way to Moscow.

I wonder if V. V. Putin wants the same data mining systems as we use? He'd just use the results differently.
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Maybe it's time for the umbrella ricin pellet trick.

At the very least, the notion this punk is a "hero," a "man of conscience" struggling against the federal leviathan, is gone. He's a man of conscience all right. In the same way Alger Hiss, Jonathan Pollard and Bradley Manning were. You judge a man by the company he keeps. And he seems to have an affinity for America's enemies. That makes him an enemy of America.

The MSM hilariously insist on callng Snowden a "whistle blower." These same folks, for months, kept referring to the wh*re in the Duke "rape" case as an "exotic dancer."
 
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I'm still not sure how I feel about Snowden. On one hand, it's good to keep the government in check. On the other hand, I'm still uncomfortable with how he's gone about this....
 
dxmnkd316 said:
I'm still not sure how I feel about Snowden. On one hand, it's good to keep the government in check. On the other hand, I'm still uncomfortable with how he's gone about this....
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He didn't tell us anything we didn't know already. The NSAT&T meme has been around since 2006. He confirmed what we knew. I would be interested to see what is in that sealed indictment. I just love the fact that he has taken a tour of countries that aren't on our Christmas card list...And his final destination is supposed to be Ecuador which is among the least free places on earth.
 
Priceless said:
He didn't tell us anything we didn't know already. The NSAT&T meme has been around since 2006. He confirmed what we knew. I would be interested to see what is in that sealed indictment. I just love the fact that he has taken a tour of countries that aren't on our Christmas card list...And his final destination is supposed to be Ecuador which is among the least free places on earth.
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He should look both ways before crossing the street. Somehow I think he gets bitten by a poisonous spider or shoots himself in the back of the head in a gun cleaning accident. At midnight. In a dark alley. With no gun found at the site.

Maybe we now know why Aaron Hernandez hasn't been charged. He could pass for an Ecuadorian.
 
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pirate said:
He should look both ways before crossing the street. Somehow I think he gets bitten by a poisonous spider or shoots himself in the back of the head in a gun cleaning accident. At midnight. In a dark alley. With no gun found at the site.

Maybe we now know why Aaron Hernandez hasn't been charged. He could pass for an Ecuadorian.
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Like that USDA employee involved in the Billie Sol Estes case, who "committed suicide" by shooting himself several times, in the back, with a single shot, bolt action rifle. Very determined. Very flexible.
 
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Priceless said:
He didn't tell us anything we didn't know already. The NSAT&T meme has been around since 2006. He confirmed what we knew. I would be interested to see what is in that sealed indictment. I just love the fact that he has taken a tour of countries that aren't on our Christmas card list...And his final destination is supposed to be Ecuador which is among the least free places on earth.
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Yeah, it's that list of countries that makes me less opposed to charging him with "treason" or whatever we call it now.
 
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