2nd Term - Part 3 - Echo Chambers, Chorales, and Wingnuts, Oh My!

[Priceless]

Re: 2nd Term - Part 3 - Echo Chambers, Chorales, and Wingnuts, Oh My!

OK, how long until prohibition gets reinstated... http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...l-level-that-constitutes-drunken-driving?lite

So you're in favor of drunk driving? Courageous position to take.

 

[Old Pio]

Re: 2nd Term - Part 3 - Echo Chambers, Chorales, and Wingnuts, Oh My!

After Kennedy died, there were a lot of people who were murdered that had any relation to the cover-up and were looking to talk. Dorothy Kilgallen was one of them.

That, of course, is preposterous nonsense. If this intergenerational "conspiracy" was able to "murder" all of these people (Kilgallen was a notorious boozer who also took barbiturates) then how come it didn't clip Mark Lane, to name just one? This list of people "connected" to the JFK killing who were subsequently "murdered" is the classic example of post hoc, ergo propter hoc.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

Re: 2nd Term - Part 3 - Echo Chambers, Chorales, and Wingnuts, Oh My!

So you're in favor of drunk driving? Courageous position to take.

So you're in favor of reducing the limit until there is zero tolerance for anyone eventually I take it, because that seems to be whats happening. I would really like to know how often accidents occur when the driver who is at fault has a BAC of between .05 and .08 let alone up to the old limit of .10. The point is that nearly all of incidents occur when the at fault driver is above the old limit of 0.10 and a large portion occur when someone is extremely drunk, at least double the current limit. There really doesn't seem to be a point in decreasing it anymore. We don't need to criminalize someone having a drink and driving home. They are no more impaired than someone changing the radio station or talking on a cell phone. Once again, we need to enforce the laws we have instead creating more or changing existing laws. Texting while driving is a far bigger issue than people driving with a BAC between 0.05 and 0.08.

 

[Old Pio]

Re: 2nd Term - Part 3 - Echo Chambers, Chorales, and Wingnuts, Oh My!

Still waiting for one of the knucks' to man up on Benghazi and explain if Boehner is part of the cover up. He's had the e-mails for months, as well as his leadership in the House.

Opie, Patman, Flag, bigblue, anybody?

Like a drowning man clutching at a cinder block.

 

[Priceless]

Re: 2nd Term - Part 3 - Echo Chambers, Chorales, and Wingnuts, Oh My!

Like a drowning man clutching at a cinder block.

That's a creative way to describe Boehner!

That, of course, is preposterous nonsense. If this intergenerational "conspiracy" was able to "murder" all of these people (Kilgallen was a notorious boozer who also took barbiturates) then how come it didn't clip Mark Lane, to name just one? This list of people "connected" to the JFK killing who were subsequently "murdered" is the classic example of post hoc, ergo propter hoc.

But it was in an Oliver Stone movie, so it must be true!

 

[Old Pio]

Re: 2nd Term - Part 3 - Echo Chambers, Chorales, and Wingnuts, Oh My!

That's a creative way to describe Boehner!


But it was in an Oliver Stone movie, so it must be true!

I'm sure that cracks 'em up during lunch period at Hillary Clinton Middle School, but not so much here.

We're counting down to half a century since that crime. And they still haven't produced any credible forensic, documentary or testimonial evidence to prove their theories.

 

[Priceless]

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So you're in favor of reducing the limit until there is zero tolerance for anyone eventually I take it, because that seems to be whats happening. I would really like to know how often accidents occur when the driver who is at fault has a BAC of between .05 and .08 let alone up to the old limit of .10. The point is that nearly all of incidents occur when the at fault driver is above the old limit of 0.10 and a large portion occur when someone is extremely drunk, at least double the current limit. There really doesn't seem to be a point in decreasing it anymore. We don't need to criminalize someone having a drink and driving home. They are no more impaired than someone changing the radio station or talking on a cell phone. Once again, we need to enforce the laws we have instead creating more or changing existing laws. Texting while driving is a far bigger issue than people driving with a BAC between 0.05 and 0.08.

I'm just offering a simplistic response as the other side of the aisle often does. Not wearing a flag lapel pin? Why do you hate America!?

Personally, I have done very little research about drunk driving other than I know there are still too many people dying as a result.

 

[DrDemento]

Re: 2nd Term - Part 3 - Echo Chambers, Chorales, and Wingnuts, Oh My!

Ironic while pot laws are being loosened.

Bob-I have sometimes wondered about this movement to legalize pot. The ingredient that can be medically helpful should certainly be easily made into a liquid, a syrup or a pill. If that is the case, then why not have that available instead of smoking something that can be harmful to the respiratory system? Tobacco has already been shown to have numerous things in it that are harmful if inhaled-but i would imagine inhaling any sort of smoke from any source should be also harmful. The incidence of asthma, bronchitis, emphysema and other lung diseases should be of major concern. If a patient actually is one who could benefit medically from pot-why not bake him some brownies laced with THC? Or mix it into something tasty like a little sugary syrup?

 

[WisconsinWildcard]

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Bob-I have sometimes wondered about this movement to legalize pot. The ingredient that can be medically helpful should certainly be easily made into a liquid, a syrup or a pill. If that is the case, then why not have that available instead of smoking something that can be harmful to the respiratory system? Tobacco has already been shown to have numerous things in it that are harmful if inhaled-but i would imagine inhaling any sort of smoke from any source should be also harmful. The incidence of asthma, bronchitis, emphysema and other lung diseases should be of major concern. If a patient actually is one who could benefit medically from pot-why not bake him some brownies laced with THC? Or mix it into something tasty like a little sugary syrup?

Off the top of my head, respiratory administration allows better dosing than through GI. You can also vaporize the THC to inhale it which also makes it "safer."

 

[Priceless]

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Well isn't THIS special?!? Turns out "media sources" have been making up stuff about the Admin's Benghazi response...

http://www.politico.com/politico44/...sed-by-benghazi-quote-fabrication-163960.html

For people who tell us to never trust the "lamestream media" you knuckledraggers sure seem to fall for them every time....

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In an email dated 9/14/12 at 9:34 p.m. — three days after the attack and two days before Ambassador Rice appeared on the Sunday shows – Deputy National Security Advisor Ben Rhodes wrote an email saying the State Department’s concerns needed to be addressed.

“We must make sure that the talking points reflect all agency equities, including those of the State Department, and we don’t want to undermine the FBI investigation. We thus will work through the talking points tomorrow morning at the Deputies Committee meeting.”

The email acquired by Tapper, visible below, has the same timestamp but a much different message. It reads:

Sorry to be late to this discussion. We need to resolve this in a way that respects all of the relevant equities, particularly the investigation.

There is a ton of wrong information getting out into the public domain from Congress and people who are not particularly informed. Insofar as we have firmed up assessments that don’t compromise intel or the investigation, we need to have the capability to correct the record, as there are significant policy and messaging ramifications that would flow from a hardened mis-impression.

That's a significant difference, changing the perception that the State Department (and the administration) was protecting itself into one that implies that Rhodes' goal was to ensure correct information went out. Republicans have consistently attacked the State Department, then led by likely 2016 Democratic presidential contender Hillary Clinton, for obfuscating the details of the attack. The Rhodes email could offer some measure of exoneration.

Keep digging.

 

[Bob Gray]

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Bob-I have sometimes wondered about this movement to legalize pot. The ingredient that can be medically helpful should certainly be easily made into a liquid, a syrup or a pill. If that is the case, then why not have that available instead of smoking something that can be harmful to the respiratory system? Tobacco has already been shown to have numerous things in it that are harmful if inhaled-but i would imagine inhaling any sort of smoke from any source should be also harmful. The incidence of asthma, bronchitis, emphysema and other lung diseases should be of major concern. If a patient actually is one who could benefit medically from pot-why not bake him some brownies laced with THC? Or mix it into something tasty like a little sugary syrup?

They want to get high. Medical marijuana is the most obvious trojan horse in a long time.

 

[Old Pio]

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More info



Keep digging.

By all means. See if you can't find out who was responsible for issuing two "stand down" orders, which kept rescuers in Tripoli from trying to help in Benghazi.

 

[Priceless]

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By all means. See if you can't find out who was responsible for issuing two "stand down" orders, which kept rescuers in Tripoli from trying to help in Benghazi.

I'm not that interested. I'm sure the voices in your head will tell you the answer.

 

[Rover]

By all means. See if you can't find out who was responsible for issuing two "stand down" orders, which kept rescuers in Tripoli from trying to help in Benghazi.

So who to believe? Robert Gates who lampooned the notion of a rescue effort or Opie who has the hots for Cong Issa?

 

[Old Pio]

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So who to believe? Robert Gates who lampooned the notion of a rescue effort or Opie who has the hots for Cong Issa?

Another one of your "historical facts?"

 

[Old Pio]

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I'm not that interested. I'm sure the voices in your head will tell you the answer.

Ad hominem is so much easier, isn't it? No worry about those troubling facts. I assume we can expect you and the Sun King to become increasingly hysterical as the slime continues to ooze out of this administration.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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So you're in favor of drunk driving? Courageous position to take.

Obvious troll is obvious. Welcome back to the ignore list.

 

[Priceless]

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Ad hominem is so much easier, isn't it? No worry about those troubling facts. I assume we can expect you and the Sun King to become increasingly hysterical as the slime continues to ooze out of this administration.

In your eyes no doubt. Back in the real world the recovery will continue, the march towards equality will continue and the GOP will become more and more marginalized.

 

[Priceless]

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Welcome back to the ignore list.

I'm devastated.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Bob-I have sometimes wondered about this movement to legalize pot. The ingredient that can be medically helpful should certainly be easily made into a liquid, a syrup or a pill. If that is the case, then why not have that available instead of smoking something that can be harmful to the respiratory system? Tobacco has already been shown to have numerous things in it that are harmful if inhaled-but i would imagine inhaling any sort of smoke from any source should be also harmful. The incidence of asthma, bronchitis, emphysema and other lung diseases should be of major concern. If a patient actually is one who could benefit medically from pot-why not bake him some brownies laced with THC? Or mix it into something tasty like a little sugary syrup?

By legalizing it, you're making it less attractive to the hipster generation. Not to mention, you're reducing border crime associated with the smuggling of J by the Mexicans.