2nd Term - Part 3 - Echo Chambers, Chorales, and Wingnuts, Oh My!

[Old Pio]

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In your eyes no doubt. Back in the real world the recovery will continue, the march towards equality will continue and the GOP will become more and more marginalized.

Geez, "march towards equality" is kind of rhetoric one associates with the IWW. So you justify the criminality and lying by Obamabots and "The One" himself because the DJIA is up? Although any improvement in employment is welcome, it's a little unseemly in the fourth year of a "recovery" to be bragging about 7.5% unemployment, don't you think? Tell me, do you and Rover feel even a little embarrassed by now implying Bob Gates is your new BFF?

 

[Old Pio]

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FWIW, here's Jonathan Karl's response to the Jake Tapper story on CNN. The one that's responsible for Rover & Priceless' reltneys.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/more-details-on-benghazi-talking-points-emerge/

 

[Rover]

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Another one of your "historical facts?"

As your lust for Issa is a current thing, I guess it wouldn't qualify as "historical".

Look, I know you need to justify your meaningless existence by latching onto BS stories about the Prez, but you really should try something that has a 1% chance of sticking next time. Your continuing to quote a now discredited reporter from the "lamestream media" proves that you and your ilk are frauds. The guy's "source" burned him, plain and simple. So for the umpteenth time Opie, what's the crime, where's the coverup since you have yet to refute the the GOP leadership was briefed on all this months ago, and finally how do you know more than Robert Gates about what was and wasn't possible regarding US forces getting to Benghazi in time? Continually repeating your lie will not make it true. It only makes you a laughingstock. Do you like being a laughingstock Old Pio? If so, kudos on accomplishing that.

 

[Old Pio]

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As your lust for Issa is a current thing, I guess it wouldn't qualify as "historical".

Look, I know you need to justify your meaningless existence by latching onto BS stories about the Prez, but you really should try something that has a 1% chance of sticking next time. Your continuing to quote a now discredited reporter from the "lamestream media" proves that you and your ilk are frauds. The guy's "source" burned him, plain and simple. So for the umpteenth time Opie, what's the crime, where's the coverup since you have yet to refute the the GOP leadership was briefed on all this months ago, and finally how do you know more than Robert Gates about what was and wasn't possible regarding US forces getting to Benghazi in time? Continually repeating your lie will not make it true. It only makes you a laughingstock. Do you like being a laughingstock Old Pio? If so, kudos on accomplishing that.

I should think you're in a better position to answer that question than I. Just keep repeating: it's all about the video, it's all about the video, it's all about the video. And don't forget to click the heels of your cute ruby slippers.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: 2nd Term - Part 3 - Echo Chambers, Chorales, and Wingnuts, Oh My!

Bob-I have sometimes wondered about this movement to legalize pot. The ingredient that can be medically helpful should certainly be easily made into a liquid, a syrup or a pill. If that is the case, then why not have that available instead of smoking something that can be harmful to the respiratory system? Tobacco has already been shown to have numerous things in it that are harmful if inhaled-but i would imagine inhaling any sort of smoke from any source should be also harmful. The incidence of asthma, bronchitis, emphysema and other lung diseases should be of major concern. If a patient actually is one who could benefit medically from pot-why not bake him some brownies laced with THC? Or mix it into something tasty like a little sugary syrup?

They've been at work on that for about 20 years, with some results (sorry for the Wiki reference, but that particular article is reasonably well-cited). The general consensus seems to be that the effects of the pharmaceutical version are considerably different from the "natural" version, and can actually be more dangerous (lack of smoke aside).

 

[Priceless]

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It's not all about the video.

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[Old Pio]

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I'm just offering a simplistic response as the other side of the aisle often does. Not wearing a flag lapel pin? Why do you hate America!?

Personally, I have done very little research about drunk driving other than I know there are still too many people dying as a result.

As the survivor of a near miss, where a drunken driver came within a fraction of a second of t-boning the car my mother, sister-in-law, brother and I were riding in, I'm acutely aware of the fact that there are drivers out there who drive drunk, really drunk, all the time. The driver who nearly wiped us all out had a BAC around 2.00 and had multiple DWI arrests. She's a drunk. And that's how she customarily drives. So I agree with you completely on this one. I've told the story before about the president of my fraternity at DU a few years ago who lost his fiancé when a drunk driver slammed into the car she and several other members of the volleyball team were riding in. He was on the wrong side of the road. With multiple DWI's to his credit.

I have no statistical basis on which to evaluate whether the proposed lowering of the limit will have any impact on drunk driving. We're certainly doing a better job of it. Drunk driving deaths are down significantly. And many more people are aware of, and take steps to avoid, driving while impaired. It's no longer funny or cute to drive with a snootful. But the hard core, hopeless boozers, who are out there 24/7 aren't paying attention to MADD or SADD or the PSA's. I'm not opposed to lowering the BAC level. Let's just say I'll need some convincing as to its efficacy.

 

[Old Pio]

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It's not all about the video.

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No doubt about it, Toto, we're talkin' different videos here.

 

[Priceless]

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No doubt about it, Toto, we're talkin' different videos here.

I have never felt the rain down in Africa nor do I know anyone named Rosanna, although I do agree that love isn't always on time.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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As the survivor of a near miss, where a drunken driver came within a fraction of a second of t-boning the car my mother, sister-in-law, brother and I were riding in, I'm acutely aware of the fact that there are drivers out there who drive drunk, really drunk, all the time. The driver who nearly wiped us all out had a BAC around 2.00 and had multiple DWI arrests. She's a drunk. And that's how she customarily drives. So I agree with you completely on this one. I've told the story before about the president of my fraternity at DU a few years ago who lost his fiancé when a drunk driver slammed into the car she and several other members of the volleyball team were riding in. He was on the wrong side of the road. With multiple DWI's to his credit.

I have no statistical basis on which to evaluate whether the proposed lowering of the limit will have any impact on drunk driving. We're certainly doing a better job of it. Drunk driving deaths are down significantly. And many more people are aware of, and take steps to avoid, driving while impaired. It's no longer funny or cute to drive with a snootful. But the hard core, hopeless boozers, who are out there 24/7 aren't paying attention to MADD or SADD or the PSA's. I'm not opposed to lowering the BAC level. Let's just say I'll need some convincing as to its efficacy.

I would argue that increased enforcement of toughened DUI laws, compared to 30 years ago, has played a much bigger role in the reduction of fatalities. The days of telling the cop you're 5 minutes from home, and he says he'll follow you the rest of the way, are over.

 

[joecct]

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He's going to get fired, or the MSM is deciding that their thoroughbred is really a trotter. http://www.libertynews.com/2013/05/obama-compared-to-nixon-by-nbc-nightly-news/


Speaking of Tricky Dick, if true, the former FLOTUS is being called out as a liar and unethical. http://patdollard.com/2013/05/flash...avior-conspiracy-to-violate-the-constitution/

 

[Foxton]

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He's going to get fired, or the MSM is deciding that their thoroughbred is really a trotter. http://www.libertynews.com/2013/05/obama-compared-to-nixon-by-nbc-nightly-news/

Or he's just bringing up what people are trying to compare it to at the start of a program and like all of this is almost entirely a non-issue. But no, it must be some super secret ultra double secret probation motive!

Speaking of Tricky Dick, if true, the former FLOTUS is being called out as a liar and unethical. http://patdollard.com/2013/05/flash...avior-conspiracy-to-violate-the-constitution/

Amazing what schlock get can dredged up by the desperate.

 

[Old Pio]

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I would argue that increased enforcement of toughened DUI laws, compared to 30 years ago, has played a much bigger role in the reduction of fatalities. The days of telling the cop you're 5 minutes from home, and he says he'll follow you the rest of the way, are over.

No question. That's implied, though not expressed in, "we're doing a better job."

 

[Old Pio]

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Or he's just bringing up what people are trying to compare it to at the start of a program and like all of this is almost entirely a non-issue. But no, it must be some super secret ultra double secret probation motive!



Amazing what schlock get can dredged up by the desperate.

Or maybe the POTUS is just a ruthless jumped up "community organizer" who learned all the lessons of Chicago politics.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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[dxmnkd316]

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That was an excellent piece. I love John Stewart and that was one of his finer segments.

 

[Priceless]

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Bachmann calls for "spiritual warfare"

Speaking to the Liberty Council’s “The Awakening 2013″ conference last month, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) urged a religious crowd to focus on “spiritual warfare” in their continuing fight to impose religious values on government.

“You see, if we retreat from our values and fail to make the case on issues like marriage, because it is one man, one woman — because God said it is, not because it’s poll tested, because God said it is,” she said. And life, not because it’s poll tested, because God stands for life,” she continued. “He made us in his image and likeness. And if we tread too softly on issues like taking on Islamic jihad, and if we fight too timidly and if we strive too meekly, then I think we all understand, we very easily could come face to face with defeat and then our nation would, in fact, pay a great and a lasting price, one that none of us wants to face.”

“We need to recognize the desperate situation of our commission, not only in the natural, but in the supernatural,” Bachmann insisted, her tone becoming more urgent. “Because as the scripture was read from the pulpit at Margaret Thatcher’s funeral, we fight not against this world, we fight against the powers and principalities and prince of the air. That’s where we need to focus as well, is on spiritual warfare.”

The Liberty Council, a religious advocacy group, billed its 2013 conference “Fighting for the Soul of America,” and held panels “with topics from Israel to immigration, from our families to our nation’s future,” featuring at least one speaker who assured attendees that America stands at “the precipice of total destruction” due to President Barack Obama’s policies.

 

[5mn_Major]

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As with Clinton or Reagan, Obama's legacy is not tied to a handful of mini-scandals. It is tied to this:

US Budget Deficit Shrinks Far Faster Than Expected

Published: Wednesday, 15 May 2013 | 3:20 AM ET
By: Annie Lowrey

Since the recession ended four years ago, the federal budget deficit has topped $1 trillion every year. But now the government's annual deficit is shrinking far faster than anyone in Washington expected, and perhaps even faster than many economists think is advisable for the health of the economy.

That is the thrust of a new report released Tuesday by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, estimating that the deficit for this fiscal year, which ends on Sept. 30, will fall to about $642 billion, or 4 percent of the nation's annual economic output, about $200 billion lower than the agency estimated just three months ago.

The agency forecast that the deficit, which topped 10 percent of gross domestic product in 2009, could shrink to as little as 2.1 percent of gross domestic product by 2015 — a level that most analysts say would be easily sustainable over the long run — before beginning to climb gradually through the rest of the decade.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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As with Clinton or Reagan, Obama's legacy is not tied to a handful of mini-scandals. It is tied to this:

US Budget Deficit Shrinks Far Faster Than Expected

Published: Wednesday, 15 May 2013 | 3:20 AM ET
By: Annie Lowrey

Since the recession ended four years ago, the federal budget deficit has topped $1 trillion every year. But now the government's annual deficit is shrinking far faster than anyone in Washington expected, and perhaps even faster than many economists think is advisable for the health of the economy.

That is the thrust of a new report released Tuesday by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, estimating that the deficit for this fiscal year, which ends on Sept. 30, will fall to about $642 billion, or 4 percent of the nation's annual economic output, about $200 billion lower than the agency estimated just three months ago.

The agency forecast that the deficit, which topped 10 percent of gross domestic product in 2009, could shrink to as little as 2.1 percent of gross domestic product by 2015 — a level that most analysts say would be easily sustainable over the long run — before beginning to climb gradually through the rest of the decade.

You just fell into the Bear Trapp. This defecit fell because of a one-time additional revenue stream that was perpetrated by concerns over Taxmageddon. Go to the economics thread to see the entire explanation; I am not re-posting it here.

 

[goldy_331]

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Or he's just bringing up what people are trying to compare it to at the start of a program and like all of this is almost entirely a non-issue. But no, it must be some super secret ultra double secret probation motive!



Amazing what schlock get can dredged up by the desperate.

Amazing what can be ignored by the faithful when it's their heroes being pilloried for their actions.