2024 Elections: One Last Chance for Democracy

[unofan]

I'll say. I think her biggest miss was a 3 overcount of R.

She missed the governor's race 6 years ago by 6 points. But my guess is she missed tonight by 10. And I think it mainly comes down to blue-collar men not being in her "likely voter" pool because they wouldn't say they'd definitely vote.

 

[Spartanforlife4]

So has Dump made inroads with Black/Brown men? NBC has brought this up a few times.

Brown yes, black no.

 

[state of hockey]

So has Dump made inroads with Black/Brown men? NBC has brought this up a few times.

Yes, but I think it is more low turnout and decreasing population.

 

[Jimjamesak]

I do not feel good now...

 

[dxmnkd316]

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[Kepler]

Harris closing to within 3.2% in GA with 14% remaining.

 

[MichVandal]

Ironically, I'll also be less affected by what he does than his own voters will be, but that's on them.

Us, too. It's hard to really think that minorities will vote for that bastard. But they will lose out, I'm pretty confident. And the warning from elmo and him that pain will be felt? Yea.

I'm glad we don't work anymore. But the repeal of the ACA will change the health options, especially medicare when we get to that point.

 

[BassAle]

I do not feel good now...

same

 

[dxmnkd316]

You can't blame this on turnout. Trump somehow brings out a bunch of otherwise disinterested unlikely voters, namely blue-collar men, and gets them to vote for him against their own self-interest. I don't get it, but I'm not the target demo. Ironically, I'll also be less affected by what he does than his own voters will be, but that's on them.

And you can't blame the GOTV effort by the Harris campaign. They did everything they could.

This is what america wants. It's not for lack of effort.

 

[Jimjamesak]

At this point Harris has to run the table unless there's a miracle in GA.

 

[Kepler]

NE-statewide Dump, of course.

 

[BassAle]

I just don’t understand this country

 

[Russell Jaslow]

Us, too. It's hard to really think that minorities will vote for that bastard. But they will lose out, I'm pretty confident. And the warning from elmo and him that pain will be felt? Yea.

But will you have the money to retire, as Project 2025 will tank our 401Ks?

 

[Kepler]

At this point Harris has to run the table unless there's a miracle in GA.

She needs WI-MI-PA.

 

[state of hockey]

Another 2016 it is. Just can’t have a woman, let alone a black one.

 

[Jimjamesak]

I should correct myself, Harris needs a miracle in GA and PA. If Dump wins PA it's over (and it's not looking good).

 

[First Time Long Time]

What the absolute fuck is wrong with this country...

 

[state of hockey]

She needs WI-MI-PA.

I don’t think she gets any of them.

 

[Kepler]

I'm going to stop drinking for the night. I need my faculties.

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

I don’t think she gets any of them.

I'm still holding out hope that the outstanding votes will break heavily towards Harris.

But, it would be nice to see that start to manifest soon.