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2024-25 Season Discussion, Recruits, Thoughts, Etc.

Andres said:
... but Elmira's absence is disappointing;
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An NAHL franchise begins operation in Elmira at the purple arena this year. Hopefully, EC will be able to co-opt some of these kids to stay around after they age out of Jrs.
 
elbojpb said:
An NAHL franchise begins operation in Elmira at the purple arena this year. Hopefully, EC will be able to co-opt some of these kids to stay around after they age out of Jrs.
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Oswego had (still do?) a junior hockey team, and it made no difference at all for Oswego State in their recruitment.
 
AIC typically carries 36 or more players on its roster, so they have a lot of guys who hardly, if ever, get into a game.
 
bakdraft21 said:
I would not to worked up about the rankings,I think Oz will have a rebuilding yr instead of a reloading yr...as for Elmira probably the same....as for Skidmore not sure, but they will play a full Suny schedule next yr I think???
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In a sense, you might be better with a lower ranking, if it means you're bringing back a lot of guys with experience who have been successful.
 
bakdraft21 said:
damn thats alot of nameplates for sure,turnstyle like lockeroom ,dont think that could be very good??
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AIC won three Atlantic Hockey championships in a row (not counting the cancelled COVID year) and lost in the finals last year to RIT, where they could have made it four out of five.

So, you tell me. Was it very good? :)
 
Russell Jaslow said:
AIC won three Atlantic Hockey championships in a row (not counting the cancelled COVID year) and lost in the finals last year to RIT, where they could have made it four out of five.

So, you tell me. Was it very good? :)
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well I bet in wasn't good for the 15 some odd kids who watched from the stands in suits,I would imagine that why they transfer a lot......would not put my kid in that situation thats for sure
 
Refresh my memory- what are the NCAA regulations on when team practices can start, who runs the practices, how often, and when the coaches can take over the team?
 
If this suit is successful (which no one thinks it won't be),
  • AND these CHL kids see the benefit of playing D1 over CHL hockey for the education and the impending compensation benefits
  • AND D1 leagues choose to adopt the roster cap of 26 for ice hockey,
  • AND extrapolating the bolded section (below) implications out a couple of seasons ...
I see in my crystal ball:
  1. D3 getting a glut of much better players
  2. Additional D3 programs being added simply to bolster sagging tuition revenues
  3. Additional D1 programs being added, but not as quickly as D3
So for at least a couple of seasons, D3 hockey could resemble AHA/CCHA in quality!?

The Detroit News - Buffalo, N.Y. — The NCAA was accused of boycotting Canadian Hockey League players from Division I competition in a class-action lawsuit filed this week that, if successful, could end college hockey’s longstanding ban on players deemed to be professionals.

The implications of the lawsuit could be far-reaching. If successful, the case could increase competition for college-age talent between North America's two top producers of NHL draft-eligible players. And it has the potential of creating a talent drain among the CHL’s three associations — the Ontario, Quebec Major Junior and Western hockey leagues — which could lose players at the junior prime age of 18 to the college ranks.

The suit was filed in U.S. District Court in Buffalo, New York, on behalf of Rylan Masterson by the New York City firm of Freedman Normand Friedland. Masterson, of Fort Erie, Ont., lost his college eligibility two years ago when, at 16, he appeared in two exhibition games for the OHL's Windsor Spitfires.

The CHL's three associations are categorized as professional leagues under NCAA bylaws, barring their players from competition.

CHL players receive a stipend of no more than $600 per month for living expenses, which is not considered as income for tax purposes. College players receive scholarships and now can earn money through endorsements and other use of their name, image and likeness (NIL).

The suit lists 10 Division 1 schools, including the three closest to Fort Erie: Canisius, Niagara and the Rochester Institute of Technology. Other schools named were Boston University, Boston College, Denver, Quinnipiac, Notre Dame, Stonehill, and St. Thomas. They were selected to show they follow the NCAA’s bylaws in barring current or former CHL players.

The NCAA did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Atlantic Hockey commissioner Michelle Morgan, whose league represents the three western New York schools, declined to comment, telling The Associated Press she was seeking more information. CHL spokesman Christopher Seguin declined comment.

The lawsuit cites news articles in alleging that the NCAA has maintained its boycott by forcing players as young as 16 to make decisions about their future, deterring them from joining the CHL. Another concern is that the NCAA bylaws suppress compensation for players by preventing competition between the CHL and NCAA for top-end talent.

The lawsuit suggests that lifting the ban would likely result in CHL teams increasing compensation to players in a bid to retain them.

The suit notes that NCAA bylaws allow the participation of professionals with the exception of men’s ice hockey and skiing. It also points out that players who competed professionally in Europe don't face the same restrictions, citing Boston University’s Tom Willander, who appeared in two Swedish Elite League games last year.

The lawsuit argues Masterson and the class have “suffered injury the type the antitrust laws were intended to prevent” and calls the NCAA’s conduct “unlawful.”

The attorneys are asking a judge to certify the members of the class, which would include anyone who played in the CHL or for a Division I school since Aug. 12, 2020.

Such legal action was considered inevitable by many in college hockey circles, especially after the NCAA determined in a 2023 review of its bylaws that its rule barring CHL players was vulnerable to a legal challenge.

According to the lawsuit, NCAA hockey coaches chose in May not to vote on whether to retain the bylaws, but instead decided to form a committee to monitor potential legal challenges.
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elbojpb said:
If this suit is successful (which no one thinks it won't be),
  • AND these CHL kids see the benefit of playing D1 over CHL hockey for the education and the impending compensation benefits
  • AND D1 leagues choose to adopt the roster cap of 26 for ice hockey,
  • AND extrapolating the bolded section (below) implications out a couple of seasons ...
I see in my crystal ball:
  1. D3 getting a glut of much better players
  2. Additional D3 programs being added simply to bolster sagging tuition revenues
  3. Additional D1 programs being added, but not as quickly as D3
So for at least a couple of seasons, D3 hockey could resemble AHA/CCHA in quality!?
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Wow that's a lot of words, I defer to Russell for my opinion:D:D:D:D.....time will tell:cool::cool::cool:
 
Not many of them will end up at Norwich because the coach is garbage.

He doesn't care about the community AT ALL. Us oldtimers remember the days around this time of year of the Blue Line Club BBQ's and the players doing Saturday morning tutoring and just being a seamless part of this town. Cam Ellsworth doesn't give a crap about any of that and more than anything I wish for the day when we have a coach who cares about this place again. That's it. Winning is awesome of course but I just want someone who cares. This guy doesn't.
 
***JCB*** said:
Not many of them will end up at Norwich because the coach is garbage.

He doesn't care about the community AT ALL. Us oldtimers remember the days around this time of year of the Blue Line Club BBQ's and the players doing Saturday morning tutoring and just being a seamless part of this town. Cam Ellsworth doesn't give a crap about any of that and more than anything I wish for the day when we have a coach who cares about this place again. That's it. Winning is awesome of course but I just want someone who cares. This guy doesn't.
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Not everything is about Norwich…
 
***JCB*** said:
Not many of them will end up at Norwich because the coach is garbage.

He doesn't care about the community AT ALL. Us oldtimers remember the days around this time of year of the Blue Line Club BBQ's and the players doing Saturday morning tutoring and just being a seamless part of this town. Cam Ellsworth doesn't give a crap about any of that and more than anything I wish for the day when we have a coach who cares about this place again. That's it. Winning is awesome of course but I just want someone who cares. This guy doesn't.
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Just call us "Happy in Oswego".
 
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