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2024-25 Season Discussion, Recruits, Thoughts, Etc.
- Thread starter smbenny
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I would not put very much weight into Neutral Zone’s recruiting rankings.
bakdraft21
Well-known member
yes they had the TOP class a few yrs ago when they had a BIG class coming in......but lets hope they are good
Go Lakers!!!!
Lord_Zubin
Puck Flattsburgh!!!
We all know that about 100-200 d1 guys are about to get cut with the new roster limit but I feel like we haven't talked about the increase from 18-26 scholarships. Now everyone one from the 1st line center to the healthy scratches gets a full ride. We might see some top d3 talent decide they'd rather get a full ride and a better degree and decide to go play d1(not necessarily next year but within the next 5 years)
Russell Jaslow
Registered User
But you said it yourself. It's a wash. Some players may choose to go D1 because more scholarships, but roster limits will cause more cuts, so solid players will move to D3 just for an opportunity to be on a team.
Roster size will have a bigger impact than scholarships. Not every D1 school is going to be able to afford 26 scholarships. But every team generally dresses 22 players for games. That only leaves 4 bodies for healthy scratches, injuries, mid-season transfers, etc. D3 will be an attractive option, especially for competitive programs with good facilities, academics, and generous financial aid packages.
bakdraft21
Well-known member
yes ,been going through this with my daughter and volleyball, not all D1 and or D2 schools give the max scholarships, no matter what the NCAAs say they can give....its what the particular school is able or wants to offer.....should make things more complicated ,at least the covid train has left the NCAA station.....Go Lakers!!!
elbojpb
Well-known member
EC lost ~75% of their offensive production to graduation. This year could be a very lean year.
Edit: 81% lost to graduation. Lean might be optimistic
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bakdraft21
Well-known member
I did not check but off the top of my head I would say Oswego is probably in the same boat...edit. looks like we scored 95 goals last season and 70ish were scored by players who are not coming back
elbojpb
Well-known member
Will the roster limits for D1 be an NCAA all-inclusive limit, or will this decision be left to the individual conferences?
Russell Jaslow
Registered User
All inclusive. It's part of the negotiated deal between the NCAA and Congress in order to settle all the issues of professionalism, NIL, labor rights, etc. Each sport has their own limits, and all D1 teams must abide by them.
Two big problems is this deal was 1) negotiated by the power conferences, so the small conferences had no say and 2) this deal was mostly negotiated by the basketball and football folks, so other sports had no idea there were even going to be roster limits imposed on them, never mind the actual numbers.
NOTE: This settlement has not yet been approved by the courts.
Russell Jaslow
Registered User
Here is something that someone posted on the D1 board:
"It appears schools can choose to "opt out" of the settlement. Would leave things as current for them. Scholarship limits, no roster limit, and no revenue sharing. A lot of your smaller schools are going to stay as current, because there's no revenue to share, and other ways to deal with the scholarship limit."
So, this appears to be the real answer to elbojpb's question. If all the schools in a particular conference agree to all opt out as a conference, then the individual conference has made that decision.
elbojpb
Well-known member
From the College Hockey Insider article from July 28 ...
If the spotty history of policing D3 tuition breaks (Neumann!) is any precedent, this is going to be a monitoring and enforcement nightmare for D1, and consulting law firms (as usual) will be raking in the cabbage.
If the spotty history of policing D3 tuition breaks (Neumann!) is any precedent, this is going to be a monitoring and enforcement nightmare for D1, and consulting law firms (as usual) will be raking in the cabbage.
Dolphin1717
New member
Speaking of Neumann they are back to something. Browsing their recruits seems very similar to back in the day when they had the Canadian scholarship. And you have a former player in Mike Hedden running the ship. Where there is smoke there is typically a fire.
The canadian jr A leagues are not as strong as they once were ever since they went pay to play. Most of the top talent is coming across the border.
Oswego leading the recruiting class is impressive, but Elmira's absence is disappointing; I agree Skidmore has a solid chance for the NCAA Tournament this season!
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bakdraft21
Well-known member
I would not to worked up about the rankings,I think Oz will have a rebuilding yr instead of a reloading yr...as for Elmira probably the same....as for Skidmore not sure, but they will play a full Suny schedule next yr I think???