ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
Apparently not -- none of those on the roster ever did. Making a roster like this as a goalie is always very difficult -- few spots and many strong candidates.
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2022 Olympic Games
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robertearle
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At least they didn't wait until January this time to break Pankowski's heart ...
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
At least she got her Natty after all the heartbreak. Hopefully that will help her deal with this latest snubbing. I have a hard time understanding that Pannek and Cameranesi are above her.
Not the first time USA Hockey has made some headscratching, questionable selections. Happens every year from u15 national development camp on up...
robertearle
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Instagram regularly "suggests" her posts to me when she posts something; she's loving vet school, and got engaged this spring. So while I'm sure she'd have loved finally getting a crack at the Olympics, she'll be OK.
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
Cameranesi in particular is just a different type of player, so I doubt that the choice comes down to Pankowski versus Cameranesi. I'd put Cameranesi in more of a broad category that would include Coyne and Murphy (energy players built for a transition game with enough grit to be effective on the rails), while Pankowski would be in a group with Knight and Zumwinkle (power forwards that can score).
Are you surprised that Eden made the roster while Pankowski did not?
robertearle
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Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Hmmmm, I don't know. They are different types of players. I haven't seen Eden in person to gauge her vs Pankowski. Pankowski was as dominant as one could be when she willed UW to the Natty. She stood out on the ice just about every shift. I cannot say the same for Eden for lack of eye test. I'd take Pankowski over Curl without much thought though, and that's a complement to Pankowski and not a knock against Curl.
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
I can see that.
A couple of things can come into play. One is that we remember these players, in large part, based on what caliber of college players they were. Once they get out of college and that structure, players go in different directions as the years pass. Some continue to develop and add a few pounds of muscle. Others aren't able to get into the same type of environment for competition and training, and their skills decline. Is Pankowski still the player we remember from March of 2019?
Another is how well their skills fit into the international game. Zumwinkle had some weaknesses in her game in college, but there were areas where she was world class. Her shot will be a weapon at any level, she can get to the net against competition, and she can keep up as the pace accelerates. Brandt was a much better player in the NCAAs, but I don't know that she can be a difference maker at the next level to the same extent that Zumwinkle can. I'd say Grace has a higher ceiling. I guess that is how UW fans feel when comparing Eden to Curl.
Pannek is just a special player that makes others around her better. Might never make the flashiest play, just always makes the right one. She's the one who sprung Lamoureaux for the tying goal against Canada. Everyone raves about the goal, but without Pannek's vision that play never happens.
thirdtime's . . .
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Yeah, what’s with the 27 to 25 to 23? Why subject these athletes’ psyches, as well as bodies, to the equivalent of a carnival dunk tank. They don’t need arbitrary, even if standard procedure, uncertainty added to their world in this of all years. Respect the players and make the hard choices now. I know what the rebuttals are; I just don’t agree. (The only good thing about this Olympic dithering is the forum commentary on the selection results, with more to come down the road, I guess.)
Great observation. It's interesting that this has never become part of the lore. I know there was a Canada shot on net that went wide, (edit: it was on net, Rooney blockered to corner) a bad change I think but I had no idea about who fed Monique the pass.
Not that Wickenheiser is unheralded at all, but in 2014 gmg OT winner by Poulin, it's rarely noted that Wick drew the penalty to get the power play and was the screen in front for the goal (no point on the play).
Happy to see USA Hockey released the roster and crossing my fingers they play an exhibition game in Pittsburgh or Columbus this fall. I can't really criticize their roster choices as all they do is win. Still heartbreak for Brodt, Bellamy and Frankel whose hockey opportunities were impacted by the Worlds Championship cancellation/ coach change.
On the goalie side the 3 that they are centralizing all have marquee wins in 2017/2018/2019 IIHF tourneys including shootouts in 2 out of 3. Do you really walk away from that experience? Prob couldn't go wrong taking any 3 of the 4 in question but can understand why you get Rooney back on the roster. 2017 is a long time ago but Hensley in particular looked great in recent PW events. Even if any of the 3 chosen were perceived to have underperformed lately, they've been wandering in the wilderness that is post grad women's hockey world and I can see coaches feeling confident that with a centralization each of them will be where they need to be come Olympics.
I think Cameranesi and Knight have great chemistry on the ice and like seeing those two together. Lots of talent added recently so we'll see how lines shake out next month. Enjoying the commentary from all of you who watched these players so much in college.
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https://www.bcinterruption.com/bost...s-carpenter-flanagan-keller-team-usa-olympics
Nothing new here, but a nice read from TTT .
Nothing new here, but a nice read from TTT .
Back in May Hockey Canada named Jim Midgley the assistant coach for The Olympics. He’s at worlds now. He just accepted a job today assistant coaching a team called the New York Rangers. Not shocking, had no apparent background in women’s hockey.
I assume that means he’s not available to centralize and coach at the Olympics.
Doug Derraugh of Cornell is also listed as one of the assistant coaches for Canada at the Olympics but the Cornell website says he won’t be centralizing.
I assume that means he’s not available to centralize and coach at the Olympics.
Doug Derraugh of Cornell is also listed as one of the assistant coaches for Canada at the Olympics but the Cornell website says he won’t be centralizing.
robertearle
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Wasn't Buchbinder hurt (again) at the world championships?
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
My impression of Wilgren is that she has offensive abilities but takes her defensive game seriously. I think Buchbinder is also a D-first blueliner, so if that is whom she is replacing on the roster, it's a good fit. While I can see this helping Team USA, it is not good news for the Mavericks, who looked poised to have one of their best seasons. They'll miss her.
USA Hockey named the assistants for the Olympics. Joining Joel Johnson are Courtney Kennedy, Brian Poithier and I forget the goalie coach name but it’s a fellow who was with them in past years.
Does this mean Kennedy is away from BC for centralization? Things seem a little different this year so not sure.
Canada US meet up on Friday for an exhibition. Game is on NHL Network but with all the good college matchups happening I will pass on watching this.
Curious to see if Mikkelson and Micah Zandee Hart and are back in the line up for Canada. Both had injuries previously. Also curious to see what Eldridge looks like if they dress her. Curious what the US looks like in general. They just didn’t seem like themselves this summer. There is also the issue of staying hungry after all that gold medal dominance. Or are they just old? Won’t be able to conclude much after this weekend but here’s hoping Canada and US post some lengthy highlight reels.
only 3 games of the MyWhy Tour have been announced so far, crossing my fingers they either travel near where I live or at least go to some exciting new places where folks haven’t had the opportunity to watch them before. Columbus Ohio would be fun.
Does this mean Kennedy is away from BC for centralization? Things seem a little different this year so not sure.
Canada US meet up on Friday for an exhibition. Game is on NHL Network but with all the good college matchups happening I will pass on watching this.
Curious to see if Mikkelson and Micah Zandee Hart and are back in the line up for Canada. Both had injuries previously. Also curious to see what Eldridge looks like if they dress her. Curious what the US looks like in general. They just didn’t seem like themselves this summer. There is also the issue of staying hungry after all that gold medal dominance. Or are they just old? Won’t be able to conclude much after this weekend but here’s hoping Canada and US post some lengthy highlight reels.
only 3 games of the MyWhy Tour have been announced so far, crossing my fingers they either travel near where I live or at least go to some exciting new places where folks haven’t had the opportunity to watch them before. Columbus Ohio would be fun.
Does Canada still scrimmage (or play games against) boys teams? The U.S.A used to also do this but I believe put a halt to this practice a couple of Olympics ago - not sure why. I remember going to a game locally that was decided by a single goal (6-5 ?) that was very entertaining.