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2020 Olympics-Wrestling Out and Rugbyand Golf In

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DrDemento

I Still bleed RPI Red
The Olympic Committee has announced for the 2020 games that all Wrestling will be removed-both freestyle and Greco Roman while Golf and Rugby will be added. They are considering applications for inclusion-Wrestling will now join seven other sports in applying for inclusion in 2020. The others are a combined bid from baseball and softball, karate, squash, roller sports, sport climbing, wakeboarding and wushu. I don't know about anyone else but i think Wrestling having been included since the earliest days probably deserves to be included before anyone considers wushu.;)
 
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Swapping golf for wrestling is a shame... Removing wrestling is bad enough... I'm going to guess they didn't pay enough bribe money.

Seriously though, how do you remove a core sport to the Olympic movement that is done in hundreds of countries. Very pathetic. I'd hope that the USOC puts this ahead of baseball and softball in their lobbying efforts.
 
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DrDemento said:
The Olympic Committee has announced for the 2020 games that all Wrestling will be removed-both freestyle and Greco Roman while Golf and Rugby will be added. They are considering applications for inclusion-Wrestling will now join seven other sports in applying for inclusion in 2020. The others are a combined bid from baseball and softball, karate, squash, roller sports, sport climbing, wakeboarding and wushu. I don't know about anyone else but i think Wrestling having been included since the earliest days probably deserves to be included before anyone considers wushu.;)
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I can't believe they will drop wrestling. What will all the 'stans compete in now? And what de f is wushu? Sounds like something on the menu at a Japanese restaurant.
 
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That is awful. Wrestling has been part of the Olympics' core since... you know, the original Olympics. In ancient Greece. Totally ridiculous.
 
Red Cloud said:
That is awful. Wrestling has been part of the Olympics' core since... you know, the original Olympics. In ancient Greece. Totally ridiculous.
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Right! It's not like baseball and softball where the host country is stuck with a couple of stadiums that won't get any use after the games. All wrestling needs for the Olympics is a decent sized arena, that could be used for different stuff after the games. Like concerts and other sports as well.
 
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I'm not a wraslin fan, far from it, but still....this is a terrible decision. I am a fan of golf, but I still don't think it should be in the Olympics. Golf had its own championships, it doesn't need the Olympics (I feel the same about Tennis, BTW). For any sport in the Olympics, winning the gold medal should be the first or second greatest achievement in that sport. For Golf, it will be behind the Open, US Open and Masters for sure, and maybe the PGA. For track and field, figure skating, gymnastics and WRASLIN, a gold medal is the highest achievement.
 
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Ridiculous. But, the IOC is a circus, so not unexpected. Wrestling should absolutely be part of the Olympics. It's certainly very widespread. Have they given a reason (excuse) for getting rid of wrestling?
 
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bigblue_dl said:
I'm not a wraslin fan, far from it, but still....this is a terrible decision. I am a fan of golf, but I still don't think it should be in the Olympics. Golf had its own championships, it doesn't need the Olympics (I feel the same about Tennis, BTW). For any sport in the Olympics, winning the gold medal should be the first or second greatest achievement in that sport. For Golf, it will be behind the Open, US Open and Masters for sure, and maybe the PGA. For track and field, figure skating, gymnastics and WRASLIN, a gold medal is the highest achievement.
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True, but it gives the host cities an excuse to build a top notch course, which in turn could generate greater tourism dollars after the games have ended. One of the big reasons baseball and softball were dropped a few years back is that the cost of the stadiums far outweighed their long-term benefits. Cities had these large stadiums, and the sport just wasn't popular in the host countries. Golf is popular in most parts of the world, and a nice course is popular with the people willing to spend more money on their destination vacations.
 
SteveP said:
Actually, the IOC isn't swapping golf for wrestling. Golf is an Olympic sport in 2016 in Rio.

C'mon, everyone knows modern pentathalon is more TV-friendly that wrestling. Right???? :rolleyes:
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I meant intrinsically, but from a literal standpoint, yes, you are correct

Edit: of course I do have issues w gorf and rugby... With gorf a single 4 round tournament seems to short to award something as weighty as a gold medal. I could see 8 rounds or 36 hole match play (variant?). With rugby 7s... Similar criticism... I like the addition of rugby but the sevens game is rather varied (higher parity) and in my opinion is too short of a match, but admittly this is a better option than full 15-man 80 minute slog fest rugby... In the Olympic setting
 
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What a joke.
 
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St. Clown said:
True, but it gives the host cities an excuse to build a top notch course, which in turn could generate greater tourism dollars after the games have ended. One of the big reasons baseball and softball were dropped a few years back is that the cost of the stadiums far outweighed their long-term benefits. Cities had these large stadiums, and the sport just wasn't popular in the host countries. Golf is popular in most parts of the world, and a nice course is popular with the people willing to spend more money on their destination vacations.
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The tourism thing makes sense in theory, but if having a high end golf course is going to be that much of a success in a place like Rio, then a golf course development company probably would have already developed something. For that kind of development, the Olympics isn't really needed, it should happen organically, if the market is there. I mean, poor as hell little island nations in the Caribbean have world class golf courses, because the demand is there.
 
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Patman said:
I meant intrinsically, but from a literal standpoint, yes, you are correct

Edit: of course I do have issues w gorf and rugby... With gorf a single 4 round tournament seems to short to award something as weighty as a gold medal. I could see 8 rounds or 36 hole match play (variant?). With rugby 7s... Similar criticism... I like the addition of rugby but the sevens game is rather varied (higher parity) and in my opinion is too short of a match, but admittly this is a better option than full 15-man 80 minute slog fest rugby... In the Olympic setting
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I would hope that golf is done in 18-hole match play format. I think it is the best format for an Olympics type event. I think this ship has already sailed, but it would be kinda cool if golf was limited to only amateurs, then I would have more interest in it.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
The tourism thing makes sense in theory, but if having a high end golf course is going to be that much of a success in a place like Rio, then a golf course development company probably would have already developed something. For that kind of development, the Olympics isn't really needed, it should happen organically, if the market is there. I mean, poor as hell little island nations in the Caribbean have world class golf courses, because the demand is there.
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Yes, I agree with you again. That's why I used the word "excuse" rather than a softer word. At the same time, those baseball stadiums do sit empty, or have to be redesigned for soccer or something, and Olympic towns were getting irritated with the sport. So now these committees still have an excuse to spend millions upon millions of dollars and it's on a sport that will at least do nominally well in drawing fans during the games.
 
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Bob Gray said:
Ridiculous. But, the IOC is a circus, so not unexpected. Wrestling should absolutely be part of the Olympics. It's certainly very widespread. Have they given a reason (excuse) for getting rid of wrestling?
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AP broke the story this morning.

The IOC board acted after reviewing the 26 sports on the current Olympic program. Eliminating one sport allows the International Olympic Committee to add a new sport to the program later this year.

Wrestling, which combines freestyle and Greco-Roman events, goes back to the inaugural modern Olympics in Athens in 1896.

"This is a process of renewing and renovating the program for the Olympics," IOC spokesman Mark Adams said. "In the view of the executive board, this was the best program for the Olympic Games in 2020. It's not a case of what's wrong with wrestling, it is what's right with the 25 core sports."
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Team Handball is a wacky sport that deserves more attention. It would be a good use of HS gyms in the fall / spring / summer.

Golf should be open to amateurs or secondary tour players (web.com, Symestra, etc.) only and then 36 holes of stroke play to get to a field of 32 or 64 match play for the individual gold. Then the other week do the same for team play with four ball. As others have said, the big boy/girl pros have too many tournaments that have more prestige than the Olympics.

Besides, I want to see if Lydia Ko can singlehandedly beat the South Koreans/Taiwanese.
 
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goldy_331 said:
And what de f is wushu? Sounds like something on the menu at a Japanese restaurant.
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You mean moo shu?

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