2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

[Handyman]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

Well to Kepler anyone to the Right of Karl Marx is a Republican and not worth his time. If they dont live within 50 miles of the Ocean they should just be excommunicated anyways

 

[dxmnkd316]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

Well to Kepler anyone to the Right of Karl Marx is a Republican and not worth his time. If they dont live within 50 miles of the Ocean they should just be excommunicated anyways

I'm not sure I agree with that assessment...

 

[joecct]

East-cast bias

Ladies and Gentlemen - Richard Nixon - A Fantasy.

You'll appreciate the bit that starts around 6:00

https://youtu.be/TrDkZiCOwhQ

BTW - That's Gabe Kapler in the cell with RMN

 

[Rover]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

Well to Kepler anyone to the Right of Karl Marx is a Republican and not worth his time. If they dont live within 50 miles of the Ocean they should just be excommunicated anyways

Its too bad because he used to be a lot more normal. I'd be more in favor of absolutism if it wasn't Nazi's that were going to fill the void if the country isn't completely on board with abolishing all private insurance and implementing UBI.

I do however get some amusement at the notion that nobody has ever accomplished anything really progressive since sometime in the 1930's!

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

I do however get some amusement at the notion that nobody has every accomplished anything really progressive since sometime in the 1930's!

That wasn't the question asked.

23 Trillion is a steep hill to climb. You better consider your next post carefully.

 

[5mn_Major]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

Well 5mm is always wrong so just ignore what they say anyways.

Yeah? Like when I said your beloved electoral college sucked?

 

[Kepler]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

Well 5mm is always wrong so just ignore what they say anyways. They dont even know how the Tax Model works...must have got hit by one of them bullets on 394

5mn is usually right about politics; he's just wrong on the man in the sky stuff and that doesn't matter anyway.

 

[Kepler]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

Well to Kepler anyone to the Right of Karl Marx is a Republican and not worth his time. If they dont live within 50 miles of the Ocean they should just be excommunicated anyways

Who says I don't consider Marx a Republican?

 

[Handyman]

Who says I don't consider Marx a Republican?

I tried to think of someone else but panicked and went with Marx cause it was funny

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Well to Kepler anyone to the Right of Karl Marx is a Republican and not worth his time. If they dont live within 50 miles of the Ocean they should just be excommunicated anyways

I know you're being flippant, but I wouldn't say Marx. Kamala Harris would be more accurate.

EDIT: LOL, of course.

 

[busterman62]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

Well to Kepler anyone to the Right of Karl Marx is a Republican and not worth his time. If they dont live within 50 miles of the Ocean they should just be excommunicated anyways

I'm not sure I agree with that assessment...

25 miles?

I like your flowery words mixed with a healthy dose of hallucinogens!

This just needed repeating

 

[The Rube]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

But there is no evidence that Ultra Liberals will be successful at getting things done. (which is kind of what Rover is trying to get at...they have issues even winning let alone governing) If you burn bridges with everyone who is moderate and Right you wont have enough votes to pass anything. It is one thing for AOC to be a firebrand holding every Dems feet to the fire it is another for the Presidential Candidate to do that. Lets not forget that while many of us are Progressive not every Dem is and they should be represented as well.

If the Bernie Bros turn "moderate" into a bad word (like the Right turned Liberal into a bad word) they will guarantee another 4 years of Trump. If the Progressives want to win they are going to need the moderates on their side. ****ing on them at every turn like some of you do (not you Scooby) isnt going to make them vote for you...

Politics is playing to the audience as much as it is anything else. Look at Trump he changes his message every time he gives a speech to a new town. (hell he changes it mid speech!) You need to make sure to give the people you want to vote for you what they want...or at least tell them you will. If you spit on everyone (which is what the Coastals do with Middle America for example) why the heck would they support you? If you say everyone who thinks differently than you (even in your own party!) is just an uneducated Cletus who is worthless and should just shut up and follow then the problem isnt them, it is you.

Like them or hate them, we need the moderates including Amy Klobuchar. I dont know if she makes the best candidate but she has done nothing but good in her career and is on the right side of most issues.

So much the bolded.

 

[mookie1995]

Yeah I should've made that more clear, I haven't had any major disagreements with Rover in this thread that I can think of.

so you’re the one

 

[mookie1995]

I like your flowery words mixed with a healthy dose of hallucinogens! As I wasn't born yet I'll just assume your take on HHH is wrong as you're often not correct in your study of history, but again I wasn't there. Beyond that though I can't laugh hard enough about the Duke not really being a liberal. I mean, you're getting into Flaggy type absurdity now.

What I'd like to do, and you don't want to do, is win. Even though the type of progressives you prefer are apparently on an unbroken 68 year losing streak (1948-2016) NEXT YEAR WILL BE DIFFERENT!!!!! Obviously deep in your heart you know that's not true. But like Scooby, you like to lose. You revel in defeat. Its comforting. You wouldn't know what to do if you won politically, so you'd immediately start looking for reasons to be disappointed in order to get back under your security blanket of disappointment. I think this also explains your distaste for the winning ways of Boston sports teams, but that's a topic for another thread.

Oh and Scooby, I didn't say you should be ignored. I said you should be ridiculed. Big difference.

Hubert Horacio Hornblower

The duke took the D line to work. If that’s not lib, lib don’t exist

 

[ScoobyDoo]

So much the bolded.

Yet the GOP gets things done more and more every day.

 

[5mn_Major]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

Potential trouble for Biden.

It appears that Joe got a top Ukrainian prosecutor fired that he claims was corrupt. Problem is that the fired prosecutor had been leading a wide ranging probe into the corrupt practices of a Ukrainian natural gas firm - one that was sending monthly $166K payments to a US firm where Biden's son, Hunter, was a partner. This could have legs.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-h...ukrainian-nightmare-a-closed-probe-is-revived

...and it sounds like Bloomberg is reconsidering.

Bloomberg may see 2020 opening as Biden faces misconduct allegations, report says

Michael Bloomberg is reportedly having second thoughts about sitting out the 2020 presidential race amid inappropriate conduct allegations against former Vice President Joe Biden that may end Biden's bid before he has a chance to launch it. “It’s essential that we nominate a Democrat who will be in the strongest position to defeat Donald Trump and bring our country back together,” Bloomberg wrote in an op-ed. “We cannot allow the primary process to drag the party to an extreme that would diminish our chances in the general election and translate into ‘Four More Years.’”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bl...light-of-misconduct-allegations-against-biden

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

Bloomy is a nonstarter. People thought Hillary was Wall Street personified? They ain't seen nothin' yet.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

Bloomy is a nonstarter. People thought Hillary was Wall Street personified? They ain't seen nothin' yet.

That was only one of the reasons that Hillary lost. If Bloom can overcome everything else and that's the only negative he's a starter.

 

[trixR4kids]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

That was only one of the reasons that Hillary lost. If Bloom can overcome everything else and that's the only negative he's a starter.

He'd been polling at less than 1% and was doing the worst against Trump than any other potential candidate IIRC. So probably a non-starter.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

He'd been polling at less than 1% and was doing the worst against Trump than any other potential candidate IIRC. So probably a non-starter.

And 2 weeks ago Biden was walking away with it.