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2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

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BassAle said:
the problem with outright saying the republicans are terrorists (even though it is true) is that 2/3 of the voters disagree with you. 1/3 fully support the terrorists and another 1/3 are like Drew. Pete is showing he is better than the terrorists. Saying you'll refuse to work with them will play well with a portion of the primary voters (not even all) and a minority of the general election voters.
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For me the biggest thing is not electing a president with a defeatist attitude. If someone wants to give up right now that isn’t good enough.
 
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Drew S. said:
For me the biggest thing is not electing a president with a defeatist attitude. If someone wants to give up right now that isn’t good enough.
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Is there a Democrat in the field who has a defeatist attitude? I can't name one.
 
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Drew S. said:
For me the biggest thing is not electing a president with a defeatist attitude. If someone wants to give up right now that isn’t good enough.
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First man jumps off cliff, flaps arms, plummets to his death.
Second man jumps off cliff, flaps arms, plummets to his death.
Third man hesitates. Drew: "Defeatist."
 
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unofan said:
Nope. Not this time. Trix is a pox on your house, and by extension my neighborhood. And I'm sick of playing the silent bystander shaking his head in dismay.
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Well then please observe the "that was an idiotic thing to say" / "you are an idiot" distinction. We will need all our soldiers for the battle so please don't kill each other in training.
 
Kepler said:
Well then please observe the "that was an idiotic thing to say" / "you are an idiot" distinction. We need all our soldiers for the battle so please don't kill each other in training.
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Again...if arguing on here causes anyone to vote for Trump or not vote...that's on that person...not the one arguing with them.
Stop with the kumbaya BS.
 
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First Time said:
Again...if arguing on here causes anyone to vote for Trump or not vote...that's on that person...not the one arguing with them.
Stop with the kumbaya BS.
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It's not kumbaya. It's important that we all continue to respect and value each other. Our opinions come and go; they're the froth on the surf. Our energy and commitment are the only power we have to change things so don't erode it.

Wanna get mad at somebody? Get mad at the Republicans. Wanna attack somebody? Attack Dump. Democrats, regardless of our differences, are never the problem. We're fighting for the future of humanity. It's 1929 and we're fighting Hitler. We are each an extension of the other's strength and vice versa. How we treat each other will determine whether we win.
 
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Kepler said:
It's not kumbaya. It's important that we all continue to respect and value each other. Our opinions come and go; they're the froth on the surf. Our energy and commitment are the only power we have to change things so don't erode it.

Wanna get mad at somebody? Get mad at the Republicans. Wanna attack somebody? Attack Dump. Democrats, regardless of our differences, are never the problem. We're fighting for the future of humanity. It's 1929 and we're fighting Hitler. We are each an extension of the other's strength and vice versa. How we treat each other will determine whether we win.
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Already mad at them. I am to the point now where I am giving up on my "Work With Republicans" stance. Certain things are just not going to be flushed out of the system this cycle. In 4 years if we've lived through another Obama term I am going to be disappointed.

This opens me up to reevaluating Pete and Amy.
 
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We have to stop the bleeding before we can think about treating the wound. This election is a tourniquet.
 
ScoobyDoo said:
Already mad at them. I am to the point now where I am giving up on my "Work With Republicans" stance. Certain things are just not going to be flushed out of the system this cycle. In 4 years if we've lived through another Obama term I am going to be disappointed.

This opens me up to reevaluating Pete and Amy.
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Good, you should keep evaluating. I’ve got some moron progressive friends who spend half their day posting how terrible “Mayo Peed” is and it’s as childish as trump tweets
 
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Rover said:
They remind me of dealing with affordable housing advocates (and I image there's a lot of overlap). If you don't want to blow up the high school football field and build a project on it, well then you're just a heartless elitist snob who doesn't like poor people didn't you know? Same attitude.
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:D

they want affordable housing, but over................................THERE!!! :)
 
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
Good, you should keep evaluating. I’ve got some moron progressive friends who spend half their day posting how terrible “Mayo Peed” is and it’s as childish as trump tweets
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Bernie has basically created a left-wing version of the Tea Party, but none of them are self-aware enough to admit it.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Bernie has basically created a left-wing version of the Tea Party, but none of them are self-aware enough to admit it.
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Or it's a large and diverse group and generalizations about it are driven by rhetoric and not fact.
 
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Except for the part where it's far more popular than the tea party and the ideas are actually good, it's just like the tea party!
 
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