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2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country

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Fair enough, I don't think anyone here necessarily has to express support for the guy to talk about why the logic behind voting for him is flawed as it mostly relies on a false hope of a return to "normalcy" (and also Geezer clarified the post that started this conversation so that helps).

Good, now we can get back to you trying to claim Warren is actually just a Republican in a blue pantsuit. ;)

Pretty much where I am. I'd put Harris and maybe Booker above Biden.

I'd definitely put Booker above Biden and I might move Pete below Bernie. :eek:

Harris needs to drop, she's Veep material at best.
 
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Harris needs to drop, she's Veep material at best.

She works for Warren, Pete, and Biden. I'd say unless Something Goes Horribly Wrong (TM) she is going to be the Veep nominee no matter what.

Sure as f-ck aint Tulski.
 
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Trix: promote your favorite candidate, but stop ****ting on anyone not Bernie. Chances are you're going to have to get on the Warren or Biden train after the primary if you want to get rid of Trump.

This is what I'm saying albeit using 30,000 more words as usual.
 
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Ever eat with one? :D
This (living amongst them) has actually caused me a lot of pain and trouble. And I still don't fully understand. But I'm not ready to make light of the disease. This whole Trump phenomenon is what provoked me to buy and read "Ordinary Men" about the Germans in WWII and is gradually leading me toward compassion.
 
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Trix: promote your favorite candidate, but stop ****ting on anyone not Bernie. Chances are you're going to have to get on the Warren or Biden train after the primary if you want to get rid of Trump.
If a candidate proposes bad policies I will **** on said candidate for supporting said bad policies, this is a primary and drawing distinctions is fine. If you want to defend your favorite candidate's bad policies by all means go for it but it's telling that when I do this people would rather post about how I post.
 
If a candidate proposes bad policies I will **** on said candidate for supporting said bad policies, this is a primary and drawing distinctions is fine. If you want to defend your favorite candidate's bad policies by all means go for it but it's telling that when I do this people would rather post about how I post.
It's the mandate of liberals to only see their own point of view and tell everyone else they are wrong if they disagree.

So far everyone is sticking to script! :D
 
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If I had to guess from their histories, Handy, Rover though he won't admit it (what is Biden but prettier Hillary?), mookie if there's some yellow trim in it, and then maybe, maybe SJHovey cuz he really has had enough of Dump.

There’s a better chance handy votes for me in the primary than Biden.
 
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:rolleyes:
The thing is, the individual who is elected president doesn't much matter, as long as it's not a Republican, and especially except when it's "Donald Trump" or some other insane criminal. The coming necessary changes will be bottom-up and widespread, no matter if the executive signing the final documents is Biden, Warren, Sanders, or any other pretty face. The "PLANET IS ENDING" nonsense is why a ton of people who are impatient with nonsense voted for Trump.
Most Trump voters are not stupider than you, or less caring, or more evil. They just don't want people like you telling them how they have to think and act. They resent harsh accusations that they are living their lives wrongly. And then in a blunder of historic proportions, they voted (for Donald Trump! The guy from that one show lol!) with their middle fingers, and then got willingly sucked into a gaslit haze of reinforcement and obfuscation by profiteers at Fox News.
The planet isn't ending. Society is shifting with a slow, grinding resistance.

I thought most of this Hillbilly Elegy theory didn’t age well since 2017.
 
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There’s a better chance handy votes for me in the primary than Biden.

Kep's just projecting. He's living the lifestyle of a plute and hates himself for it so apparently everybody else is a closet Biden supporter!
 
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Pretty much where I am. I'd put Harris and maybe Booker above Biden.

1. Warren
2. Pete
3. Booker
4. Harris
5. Klobuchar
6. Bernie
7. Biden

Frankly, Biden’s and Bernie’s health problems are disqualifying for me.
 
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It's the mandate of liberals to only see their own point of view and tell everyone else they are wrong if they disagree.

So far everyone is sticking to script! :D

This is so dumb.

I have never known anybody, left, right or sideways, active in politics who didn't see their own views as "right" and everybody else as "wrong." The only difference between liberals and conservatives is when liberals tell you you're wrong they don't also threaten you with hell or a gun.
 
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Kep's just projecting. He's living the lifestyle of a plute and hates himself for it

TBH I'm getting to like it. A couple more years of this and I may just tell the proles to suck it. Not like they're helping themselves any.
 
I'd add that every time Chump pulls a nutty it benefits Biden as the safe, calm, familiar choice in the race. Lots of people would like to go back to a time where domestic policy wasn't conducted via twitter and foreign policy by Russia by way of a loon like Rudy Giuliani. Just accomplishing that as opposed to ushering in a new era of democratic socialism is enough for some people, which might help explain Uncle Joe's somewhat surprising staying power despite running a C minus campaign so far.



Yeah, I'm sure that'll happen any day now. :rolleyes:
Also, I'm sure part of that is backlash from the Trump "investigation".
 
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TBH I'm getting to like it. A couple more years of this and I may just tell the proles to suck it. Not like they're helping themselves any.

BWAA HA HA - Welcome to the Dark Side, Kep! You corporate, I mean government sell-out whore. ;)
 
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