unofan
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No, she's not. But keep buying into that theory.
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2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country
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No, she's not. But keep buying into that theory.
bronconick
Yep, still here
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country
Biden would be easier to stomach if he'd stop assuming once Trump leaves that the GOP would suddenly become reasonable. Took Obama six years to realize they would never be reasonable. The next Dem president needs to know this from the start. Biden clearly doesn't.
Biden would be easier to stomach if he'd stop assuming once Trump leaves that the GOP would suddenly become reasonable. Took Obama six years to realize they would never be reasonable. The next Dem president needs to know this from the start. Biden clearly doesn't.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country
To be fair I assume Biden understands the GOP are beyond reason. This is a tactic: he is selling himself as the moderate who can speak to all sides. He is using that narrative as a personal vehicle even though it damages Congressional Dems. Joe Biden wants to be president more than he wants to see liberal policies put in place.
To be fair I assume Biden understands the GOP are beyond reason. This is a tactic: he is selling himself as the moderate who can speak to all sides. He is using that narrative as a personal vehicle even though it damages Congressional Dems. Joe Biden wants to be president more than he wants to see liberal policies put in place.
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country
But it was obliquely alluded to, right in a Drudge Report link! It must be real
But it was obliquely alluded to, right in a Drudge Report link! It must be real
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country
You say that like it's a bad thing, but he speaks for a plurality of the electorate. If it comes down to Trump or Biden for 4 years, are you willing to die on that hill with Warren or Sanders?
trixR4kids
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Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country
I don't think the plurality of the electorate wants to see the planet end, which is essentially what you're voting for if you pick Biden.
I don't think the plurality of the electorate wants to see the planet end, which is essentially what you're voting for if you pick Biden.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country
Yep. I'm resigned to the planet being over at this point. Greenland is melting and the Fossil Fuel industry still drives everything in the richest country on Earth so at this point there is no other conclusion to draw and it's looking like it's too late at this point.
We don't even have a bee initiative at the Federal Level. I wonder what's going to happen when all the pollinators are gone.
Yep. I'm resigned to the planet being over at this point. Greenland is melting and the Fossil Fuel industry still drives everything in the richest country on Earth so at this point there is no other conclusion to draw and it's looking like it's too late at this point.
We don't even have a bee initiative at the Federal Level. I wonder what's going to happen when all the pollinators are gone.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country
Obviously I will campaign happily for Biden. I will support ANY Democrat over ANY Republican, probably for the rest of my days. Nazism must be completely eradicated.
Obviously I will campaign happily for Biden. I will support ANY Democrat over ANY Republican, probably for the rest of my days. Nazism must be completely eradicated.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country
I figured that out before voting for Gore in 2000. It's been 20 years already.
I figured that out before voting for Gore in 2000. It's been 20 years already.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country
This is a massive exaggeration and please don't do this. It's the equivalent of saying there was no difference between Dump and Hillary on regulating Wall Street.
Remember: you and I are on the same side. We need to be promoting the moral superiority and good horse sense of far left policy positions wherever possible. However we cannot do that by attacking center-left Democrats. The enemy is the Nazis. We cannot be like the German Communists in the 30's who attacked the Socialists as sell-outs and an impediment to revolution.
All opponents of Dump and the Republican Nazis MUST hang together or you know the rest.
This is a massive exaggeration and please don't do this. It's the equivalent of saying there was no difference between Dump and Hillary on regulating Wall Street.
Remember: you and I are on the same side. We need to be promoting the moral superiority and good horse sense of far left policy positions wherever possible. However we cannot do that by attacking center-left Democrats. The enemy is the Nazis. We cannot be like the German Communists in the 30's who attacked the Socialists as sell-outs and an impediment to revolution.
All opponents of Dump and the Republican Nazis MUST hang together or you know the rest.
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Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country
If Uncle Joe is elected then we need to look to the Congress to put big changes in front of him to sign as opposed to him suddenly pulling a Lizzy Warren and driving the bus himself. My concern with Sanders is that a lot of his ideas aren't fully thought out and it would take some time to get them worked into an actual bill. Obviously what Warren is proposing would be revised in Congress but it seems like she's a lot further down the road.
If Uncle Joe is elected then we need to look to the Congress to put big changes in front of him to sign as opposed to him suddenly pulling a Lizzy Warren and driving the bus himself. My concern with Sanders is that a lot of his ideas aren't fully thought out and it would take some time to get them worked into an actual bill. Obviously what Warren is proposing would be revised in Congress but it seems like she's a lot further down the road.
trixR4kids
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Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country
The guy has a fossil fuel board member as his climate adviser, no it ****ing isn't. Our problems go far beyond, "orange man bad", and nothing has been done about this problem for decades under both republican and dem administrations so it's not just the nazis who are to blame for it.
He has written or sponsored actual bills for most of his proposals (Medicare for All, housing, workplace democracy, labor, corporate tax loophole legislation, Yemen) unlike Warren so this is just mainstream media tripe right here.
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Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country
You are a card carrying loon. Can't sum it up any more succinctly than that!
You are a card carrying loon. Can't sum it up any more succinctly than that!
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country
Because most Americans are fcking retards.
Because most Americans are fcking retards.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country
This ........................................ or that.
<img src="https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/biden-trump-ap-gty-er-190429_hpMain_4x3_992.jpg" height=300>
This ........................................ or that.
<img src="https://c8.alamy.com/comp/KCK5YK/former-us-energy-secretary-ernest-moniz-left-and-us-energy-secretary-KCK5YK.jpg" height=300>
The choice is yours.
This ........................................ or that.
<img src="https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/biden-trump-ap-gty-er-190429_hpMain_4x3_992.jpg" height=300>
This ........................................ or that.
<img src="https://c8.alamy.com/comp/KCK5YK/former-us-energy-secretary-ernest-moniz-left-and-us-energy-secretary-KCK5YK.jpg" height=300>
The choice is yours.
trixR4kids
Well-known member
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country
Guys we're in the primary, it isn't this or that. There are other better options.
Guys we're in the primary, it isn't this or that. There are other better options.
Shocking that you can't argue the actual content of the post and resort to posting about how others post.You are a card carrying loon. Can't sum it up any more succinctly than that!
Spartanforlife4
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#1 problem is Orange Man Bad. If that doesn’t get taken care of, then problems #2-#infinity don’t get taken care of. Clearly most of us want someone other than Biden, but we can’t have people sit out again because “both parties are the same.” If people haven’t learned that’s not true in the last three years, then I don’t know what to tell them.
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country
Everybody is already making the argument that your take is stupid. Even Kep won't stick up for you and he's your mentor. Sometimes it isn't the other people trix, its you.
Everybody is already making the argument that your take is stupid. Even Kep won't stick up for you and he's your mentor. Sometimes it isn't the other people trix, its you.
trixR4kids
Well-known member
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country
Yeah we know you think this is a popularity contest.
It won't under Biden either, that's why people shouldn't vote for him in the primary. Obviously the parties aren't the same and nobody has ever said that but if we actually care about the planet being habitable during the remainder of our lifetime then we need to push back on everyone in both parties who doesn't take it seriously.
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Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country
Don't play kissy with me, laughing boy. The fact that you call somebody a loon only says they disagree with you and have presented evidence you can't counter logically, so you go to ad hom to try to win by bullying. trix is wrong in this particular case, but you're still the idiot.
Don't play kissy with me, laughing boy. The fact that you call somebody a loon only says they disagree with you and have presented evidence you can't counter logically, so you go to ad hom to try to win by bullying. trix is wrong in this particular case, but you're still the idiot.
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