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2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia
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JB v tD - close or a runaway (EV only, PV will be D due to NY and CA)?
ericredaxe
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I think Biden would flip back MI, PA, WI... enough to to win. If he flips back FL too does that become a runaway?
ericredaxe
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Ah gotcha. That is kind of what I figured but the hyperbole out there makes it sound like he was in his bathrobe yelling at the clouds
Nahh that is more Bernie.
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia
Depends on how many voters in 2020 need their heads examined. To vote for that dangerous child because the other candidate seems "out of touch" would require either crushing ignorance or malevolence or, most likely, both. And yes, we all know there are plenty.
Depends on how many voters in 2020 need their heads examined. To vote for that dangerous child because the other candidate seems "out of touch" would require either crushing ignorance or malevolence or, most likely, both. And yes, we all know there are plenty.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia
You and Bari Weiss should have a beer while you're wrapping yourselves in your incapacity to argue.
You and Bari Weiss should have a beer while you're wrapping yourselves in your incapacity to argue.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia
Bernie sounds like Old Man Yells at Cloud until you start listening to him. And then it's, "holy sh-t, this crazy old f-ck is more reasonable than anybody else up there."
Bernie sounds like Old Man Yells at Cloud until you start listening to him. And then it's, "holy sh-t, this crazy old f-ck is more reasonable than anybody else up there."
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia
....save this for the day after the inauguration when the largest crowd EVER comes to see the start of the 2nd term
....save this for the day after the inauguration when the largest crowd EVER comes to see the start of the 2nd term
Slap Shot
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Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia
I just watched RTwBM and Bari Weiss? Um, yeah. The Squad is really out to get you.
I just watched RTwBM and Bari Weiss? Um, yeah. The Squad is really out to get you.
trixR4kids
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Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia
She’s a certified loon, I watched it as well because my buddy really wanted to for some reason.
She’s a certified loon, I watched it as well because my buddy really wanted to for some reason.
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Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia
That isnt what she said. (that I remember...I could watch again but she gives me a headache and has since her first appearances on Maher) She said supporting BDS is supporting the actions of those that are out to get Israel/Jews. Not saying I agree with her (I dont hence why I will still vote for Omar) but The Left should not be supporting BDS anymore than they should support Netanyahu. Both have evil intentions and neither has any intention of peace.
As for whether she is crazy...she ranks about the same as Shaun King or the clowns behind Jezebel. (more Jezebel than King but he has really gotten far afield these days) They all have very good points but just go about it in the way wrong way. There is no need to demonize others to try and prove your point. You arent going to get people on your side if you just tell them they are scum. You need to be able to explain the differences. If Bari had any skills at all she could have made her argument without insulting anyone or allowing it to be co-opted by Krystal Ball and turned into a ****ing contest.
The crux of the argument shouldnt be "The Left is just as bad" because they arent the same or really even close. The Left just needs to focus on all aspects of the issue not what a bunch of freshmen at NYU think. You can support a Free Palestine without supporting a group like BDS. (or back in the day Hamas/Arafat) A competent debater would have said that. She was rambling because she is still angry and while I feel for her (I can only imagine what dealing with the mass shooting was like) she needs to think before she talks or take a break for a while because she is way too ****ed raw. If the Left is going to be the "Adults in the Room" we need to be able to have these discussions and disagreements like adults. We cant be spitting in each others faces just because the issues are emotional. We also have to be willing to accept that in these arguments both sides can be right and both sides can be wrong. That seems to have gotten lost here. Supporting Free Palestine is not inherently Anti-Israel and defending Israel doesnt mean you dont support Palestinians. We can do both. (we used to do both)
TL;DR: Anybody else but Bari putting forth the argument would have done a way better job.
I just watched RTwBM and Bari Weiss? Um, yeah. The Squad is really out to get you.
That isnt what she said. (that I remember...I could watch again but she gives me a headache and has since her first appearances on Maher) She said supporting BDS is supporting the actions of those that are out to get Israel/Jews. Not saying I agree with her (I dont hence why I will still vote for Omar) but The Left should not be supporting BDS anymore than they should support Netanyahu. Both have evil intentions and neither has any intention of peace.
As for whether she is crazy...she ranks about the same as Shaun King or the clowns behind Jezebel. (more Jezebel than King but he has really gotten far afield these days) They all have very good points but just go about it in the way wrong way. There is no need to demonize others to try and prove your point. You arent going to get people on your side if you just tell them they are scum. You need to be able to explain the differences. If Bari had any skills at all she could have made her argument without insulting anyone or allowing it to be co-opted by Krystal Ball and turned into a ****ing contest.
The crux of the argument shouldnt be "The Left is just as bad" because they arent the same or really even close. The Left just needs to focus on all aspects of the issue not what a bunch of freshmen at NYU think. You can support a Free Palestine without supporting a group like BDS. (or back in the day Hamas/Arafat) A competent debater would have said that. She was rambling because she is still angry and while I feel for her (I can only imagine what dealing with the mass shooting was like) she needs to think before she talks or take a break for a while because she is way too ****ed raw. If the Left is going to be the "Adults in the Room" we need to be able to have these discussions and disagreements like adults. We cant be spitting in each others faces just because the issues are emotional. We also have to be willing to accept that in these arguments both sides can be right and both sides can be wrong. That seems to have gotten lost here. Supporting Free Palestine is not inherently Anti-Israel and defending Israel doesnt mean you dont support Palestinians. We can do both. (we used to do both)
TL;DR: Anybody else but Bari putting forth the argument would have done a way better job.
trixR4kids
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Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia
None of the acronyms in BDS are inherently violent and yes the left should be supporting it.
None of the acronyms in BDS are inherently violent and yes the left should be supporting it.
Handyman
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Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia
Uh huh. Well we are not going to agree and it has zero to do with any of the candidates right now so lets table it for another time in another thread
Lets go back to mocking Biden for being old
Uh huh. Well we are not going to agree and it has zero to do with any of the candidates right now so lets table it for another time in another thread
Lets go back to mocking Biden for being old
trixR4kids
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Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia
Being old is not his main issue.
Being old is not his main issue.
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FadeToBlack&Gold
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Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia
Just watched the Maher OT segment. Krystal Ball sounds exactly like you'd expect - the smartest cheerleader in your high school's graduating class. The brightest one at my Catholic school became the top local traffic girl, then the top weekend anchor on ABC Channel 7.
Just watched the Maher OT segment. Krystal Ball sounds exactly like you'd expect - the smartest cheerleader in your high school's graduating class. The brightest one at my Catholic school became the top local traffic girl, then the top weekend anchor on ABC Channel 7.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia
And before I get accused of sexism, it has nothing to do with them being women, it's all about their intelligence.
And before I get accused of sexism, it has nothing to do with them being women, it's all about their intelligence.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Handyman
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Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia
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Just watched the Maher OT segment. Krystal Ball sounds exactly like you'd expect - the smartest cheerleader in your high school's graduating class. The brightest one at my Catholic school became the top local traffic girl, then the top weekend anchor on ABC Channel 7.
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