2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia

[mookie1995]

Luckily every billionaire will be taxed at 90% in Comrade AOC's first act as Dear Leader on January 20, 2029.

By then she'll be the centrist candidate!

Mookie doubts she will lower that top rate...

 

[mookie1995]

I sense a pattern...

Wrong one....

Coloreds will.come out for Harris or Booker. May stay on the sidelines again otherwise.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia

Kinda all this.

Even economically, the depressions/recessions/booms, we don't move to the extremes. We just do what we do, keep consistent (for the most part) and don't over react one way or the other. We "simpletons" figure we'll stay the course, it'll balance out eventually. Don't spend more than you can afford, and don't be in anyone's pocket if you don't have to.

The hell we don't. Tim Pawlenty was as extreme as anyone when it came to Reaganomics. He risked the credit rating of the State Of Minnesota to continue the trickle down myth. Then he took the ultimate 1%er job after he left office.

 

[dxmnkd316]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia

The hell we don't. Tim Pawlenty was as extreme as anyone when it came to Reaganomics. He risked the credit rating of the State Of Minnesota to continue the trickle down myth. Then he took the ultimate 1%er job after he left office.

Wanna bet?

I’ll bet you $50 straight up Trump loses to:
Bernie
Warren
Klobuchar
Pete
Biden

No bet on:
Booker
Harris

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[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

The hell we don't. Tim Pawlenty was as extreme as anyone when it came to Reaganomics. He risked the credit rating of the State Of Minnesota to continue the trickle down myth. Then he took the ultimate 1%er job after he left office.

I don’t know what rube was talking about. We don’t need super moderates. Just because he thinks Liz and Bernie are dirty socialists doesn’t mean we won’t vote for them. Just like he doesnt understand why Scandinavians are some of the happiest people in the world and are not giving up 80% of their income

 

[bronconick]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia

That seemed like a pretty straightforward answer to the question that was asked. The theory floated by the R's is that the rural areas in Minnesota (and xenophobia of Ilhan Omar!) would flip the state.

I have a different theory though. The R's don't actually think MN is in play. They are talking like it is to change the narrative. Right now the narrative is that a bunch of red states are possible flips in the next election. They hope to get networks to report that a safe blue state like Minnesota is at risk of flipping. They also hope maybe they can talk a good enough game that the Democrats devote more resources to Minnesota than needed and are unable to use those resources elsewhere. Don't buy it for a second and any high level Democrat that falls for such foolishness should never work in politics again.

Could be as simple as Parscale picking out close 2016 blue states when he talks. It's not in Trump's mindset to think defense and that has trickled down to everything he's involved in.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia

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Sorry. I won't throw my $50 away. Again, it's not about whether they can it's about why they think they can. It's closer than people think and that fact alone makes me physically ill.

 

[The Rube]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia

I don’t know what rube was talking about. We don’t need super moderates. Just because he thinks Liz and Bernie are dirty socialists doesn’t mean we won’t vote for them. Just like he doesnt understand why Scandinavians are some of the happiest people in the world and are not giving up 80% of their income

I'm not talking politicians. I'm talking consumers. The everyday people. We don't go extreme in our spending nor saving in the Midwest, in general.

 

[Handyman]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia

Interesting how I keep hearing this in weird places. Watching cable news and a NY Times Reporter was asked about how the White House feels about 2020. Reporter says the White House is always concerned about 2020, they feel they need to win the same states they did last time........they also feel they can play offense in MINNESOTA!!!!!!!!!!!!

So, apparently based on what I hear around here the Republicans are the stupidest party on earth. Cause they seem to think Minnesota is in play yet we all know it can't be in play. Just mention the possibility around here and you'll feel the heat.

I'd still like to know AND it's all I've ever asked on this topic and I never get a solid answer. Why? Why do they think this state of all the other states in the country they could possibly flip is the one? Rural? Surrounded by Red? What is it? That's all I ever wanted to know.

Do you have any idea how gullible you are if you honestly think that? Him playing offense here is akin to Clinton wasting time in Arizona.

Check This Out Trump's approval rating has crashed and burned in Minnesota according to morning consult. (17 points since the election) Even at its height, he was at 48% and that was January 2017 when things were at their rosiest. Since then the highest he reached was 43% and the rest is 41% and below. There is not one metric that shows he has any shot here.

But sure, you believe the Con Man and his group of liars. That should work out well for ya...

 

[Handyman]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia

Sorry. I won't throw my $50 away. Again, it's not about whether they can it's about why they think they can. It's closer than people think and that fact alone makes me physically ill.

Source please. I cant find one poll that says anything about it being close. Christ in July Biden was beating here by 14 points. Just because they say it doesnt make it true.

 

[Kepler]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia

I figured someone was going to say that. I figured it was going to be someone without any scruples. Or a moron. :-/

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_United_States_presidential_election_in_Minnesota

Weird.

Maybe it’s possible we just don’t like coastal opportunists who don’t take the time to hide it. Maybe we don’t like disingenuous smug arseholes who think they’re better than us because we live 1,000 miles from the coast and have the audacity to... embrace it

I thought it's what you were getting at. No mas, no mas. No kill I. I come in peace.

I'm gonna take a little break for a bit. When I anger Rover I know I'm right. When I anger Handy I know he's just feeling insecure. But when I anger dx that one has to be on me.

brb

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia

Do you have any idea how gullible you are if you honestly think that? Him playing offense here is akin to Clinton wasting time in Arizona.

Check This Out Trump's approval rating has crashed and burned in Minnesota according to morning consult. (17 points since the election) Even at its height, he was at 48% and that was January 2017 when things were at their rosiest. Since then the highest he reached was 43% and the rest is 41% and below. There is not one metric that shows he has any shot here.

But sure, you believe the Con Man and his group of liars. That should work out well for ya...

Sure gullible. That's why at the fair I talked to the Phillips campaign and they noted how much excitement and "juice" there was at the GOP booth this year. Why would THEY say that? Seemed odd to me, but that's what they told me.

Again. It has NOTHING to do with what I believe. I am just reporting the things I hear. If that's of no interest to anyone then fine, I'll refrain from reporting it.

 

[trixR4kids]

Sorry. I won't throw my $50 away. Again, it's not about whether they can it's about why they think they can. It's closer than people think and that fact alone makes me physically ill.

It’ll probably be close if we have another candidate that goes on cruise control and generates zero enthusiasm like Hillary but even she won MN by three points in a very close election. That seems like the low end of possibilities though rather than a sign that MN is going to flip or whatever. And like Ticap said I think they’re just trying to manufacture a narrative/distraction rather than actually thinking it’s truly in play.

 

[Handyman]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia

That's not what I asked. Just forget it. Every time I try it fails. This board is good but this topic never works.

Why would any of us know why they think the way they do? I am sure they have some local operatives who think their position is solid. Or maybe they are throwing crap against the wall like they did when they said Sweden was descending into anarchy because of the Immigrants. There is no logic behind their actions or thinking so trying to analyze them is a fools errand.

The math doesnt work...and that isnt cockiness or hopefulness that is just flat out science. (which they ignore which further answers your question) The numbers dont work for them because the Blue Areas outpopulate the Red Areas. This was proven when the MNGOP tried to outlaw Gay Marriage. The best chance they have is for it to be another Clinton situation where people stay home. But even with her, one of the most disliked candidates in some time, Trump couldnt win here.

TL;DR: You are asking questions none of us has the answer to but is also really not worth worrying about. I hope they waste tons of time and money here because he aint winning. And with the way the GOP is attacking Omar there is a zero percent chance Minneapolis stays home in 2020.

 

[Handyman]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia

I thought it's what you were getting at. No mas, no mas. No kill I. I come in peace.

I'm gonna take a little break for a bit. When I anger Rover I know I'm right. When I anger Handy I know he's just feeling insecure. But when I anger dx that one has to be on me.

brb

It takes more than the likes of you to make me feel insecure.

 

[trixR4kids]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia

If the turnout of the blue areas was super depressed for some reason it could theoretically happen (while simultaneously the red areas are super excited about their guy) but it’d also probably mean that the election was a Nixon-esque sweep. There’s no way MN turns red but somehow the swing states and other purple states also didn’t all go red as well.

 

[Handyman]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia

Sure gullible. That's why at the fair I talked to the Phillips campaign and they noted how much excitement and "juice" there was at the GOP booth this year. Why would THEY say that? Seemed odd to me, but that's what they told me.

Again. It has NOTHING to do with what I believe. I am just reporting the things I hear. If that's of no interest to anyone then fine, I'll refrain from reporting it.

I am sure the GOP is motivated, they should be. And the Phillips campaign should pay attention to that but so what? It isnt like if Phillips loses (which I dont think he will but either way) that means Trump somehow has a better chance. Paulsen won it in 2016 and Trump still lost Minnesota. (the District went for Clinton though and Obama twice so it isnt like they go Red in Nationals always) You seem to be conflating local politics with national results which you do a lot.

Phillips may lose...but that will be because that had been a Republican stronghold since the 60s so he is an outlier. It wont show a trend for Trump it will show a regression back to normalcy.

Let them worry about that, when it comes to Trump I will worry when he isnt losing to every major candidate here and his approval rating isnt hovering around 40%. And IMO I would bet if the election was held tomorrow he wouldnt finish within 10% of any of the leaders. That is gut feeling only based on his bad numbers and I think some of the people who voted for him will abstain right now. (none of the hardline GOPers but the ones who voted Anti-Clinton) His trolling Omar is the big key though. Keeping Minneapolis motivated is the last thing he wants ESPECIALLY District 5. If District 5 comes out en masse they will call Minnesota fast and early.

 

[Handyman]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia

It’ll probably be close if we have another candidate that goes on cruise control and generates zero enthusiasm like Hillary but even she won MN by three points in a very close election. That seems like the low end of possibilities though rather than a sign that MN is going to flip or whatever. And like Ticap said I think they’re just trying to manufacture a narrative/distraction rather than actually thinking it’s truly in play.

This.

 

[The Rube]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia

Already tired of the media saying Kamala agreed with someone who said Trump was mentally ********. That is incorrect. She agreed with someone who called his *actions* mentally ********. There IS a difference (still bad, but still a big difference).

Really? The "r" word is censored? Wow.

 

[ticapnews]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia

Really? The "r" word is censored? Wow.

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