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2020 Democratic Challengers III: The Wrath of Warren

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https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/10/6/16428458/us-energy-coal-oil-subsidies

Energy analysts have made the point again and again that fossil fuels, not renewable energy, most benefit from supportive public policy. Yet this fact, so inconvenient to the conservative worldview, never seems to sink in to the energy debate in a serious way. The supports offered to fossil fuels are so old and familiar, they fade into the background. It is support offered to challengers — typically temporary, fragmentary, and politically uncertain support — that is forever in the spotlight.
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mookie1995 said:
Set up some algorithms then to accumulate atm w/d from foreign banks.

You that big brain of your kep
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97% of my big brain is at all times occupied with plans and ambitions involving Laura Spencer.

You do it. At least your targets are math literate.
 
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By the way. That is why the anti-forgive-student-debt arguments are so hollow to me. Cause we always have money for fossil fuels. We always have enough money for another 1%er tax cut. We always have money for bailing out banks, or GM, or the Trump's of the world who can declare a limited bankruptcy which maintains their credit and ability to borrow money.

But, we never have money for people who need it.
 
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Making mookie's point.

Scooby may see thru it, but tax cuts are for all. Rates covers everyone.

"Who need it" is a limited calling
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Yep, that's me. They call me that at family gatherings and at work.
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you obviously aren't hearing all of the conversation, what they call you can't be repeated on this forum

students spent money on an education
they got it
an education on how NOT to spend money

if they haven't learned anything from the experience, it's their fault
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
By the way. That is why the anti-forgive-student-debt arguments are so hollow to me. Cause we always have money for fossil fuels. We always have enough money for another 1%er tax cut. We always have money for bailing out banks, or GM, or the Trump's of the world who can declare a limited bankruptcy which maintains their credit and ability to borrow money.

But, we never have money for people who need it.
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And that is why I said we need to come at this from both sides. Cut off the fallacy at the head.

Remember that people only care when they stand to lose. We know those uneducated rural types dont want to fund school debt buyout for various reasons...so play the GOP game tie their welfare in with student loan debt. They want relief fine...1 for you and 1 for me.

Of course if we just lowered the military budget and got tax levels back to Clinton Era we could balance the budget with our eyes closed AND fund a lot of what needs to go on. The Military is just one big welfare program that needs to be streamlined and made more efficient.
 
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Handyman said:
The Military is just one big welfare program that needs to be streamlined and made more efficient.
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The biggest problem with cutting the military budget has nothing to do with defense -- we could get by with 1/10th of our budget like every other major nation. It's a massive mostly (but not entirely) red Congressional district welfare program. With starved, sh-tty schools and a prevailing mindset that is actively hostile towards education these people are unemployable in a free market. The DOD is the UBI for these families. It's the only real apprentice program left in America: you go in not needing to know sh-t and they teach you everything. A pure socialist labor system with cradle to grave protection from the market.

We already have enormous parts of this country that produce virtually no employable or productive workforce. Without a gigantic standing army and ruinous welfare spending by the productive blue states they'd have been in revolution long before this. As it is we're just training terrorists at public expense for when we finally do cut them off.
 
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