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2020 Democratic Challengers III: The Wrath of Warren

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They're gonna do that anyway, and they've already started harping on the "Creepy Uncle Joe" thing. There's a bit for all of them that the botskis can hammer away at.

Harris loves cops and isn't really black
Booker is a corporate shill and isn't really black
Warren benefited from claiming she had Native blood
Buttigieg is gay and a small-timer who lacks experience
Castro wants open borders and free healthcare for illegals

The Buttgieg bot attack is "he hates blacks cuz he fired the black chief but not the white one."
 
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Then there’s Tulsi, who “many” on Twitter seem to love even though none of her “supporters” ever talk about a single policy of hers. Very weak campaign by Russia on her part.

Gabbard's shtick is getting America out of policing the world, particularly the Middle East, which is why Russia loves her. America pulling out of that part of the world leaves room for Pooty's forces to fill the vacuum. All about the oil money.
 
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Then there’s Tulsi, who “many” on Twitter seem to love even though none of her “supporters” ever talk about a single policy of hers. Very weak campaign by Russia on her part.

I love that all her support seems to come in coordinated waves. Almost as if it was either automated or phone / computer banks originating from the Butler Cult.

Russia doesn't have to pump her too hard because National Review is doing it for them.
 
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The idea that Warren's plans are better than Bernie's is basically a media myth that people like Rover peddle and is completely separated from reality. One of these two actually has bills in congress addressing these issues and the other has a blurb on their website about it. But Rover is trolling per usual and pulling out Forbes articles to cuck for the financial industry so go figure...

As for Harris it's hilarious how dumb she thinks her supporters are:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Now Kamala Harris is backpedaling on busing, exactly what she went after Biden for &#55357;&#56834;. <br><br>So Harris goes for these highlight reel moments yet doesn’t mean any of it. This is a candidate that treats the electorate like idiots. <a href="https://t.co/uopJEOsO65">https://t.co/uopJEOsO65</a></p>— David Doel (@daviddoel) <a href="https://twitter.com/daviddoel/status/1146772131423948802?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 4, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Warren's student loan plan is more than fair. People who can afford to pay should pay.
 
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Warren's student loan plan is more than fair. People who can afford to pay should pay.
Maybe, but you're gonna find more opposition and it's far easier to attack a bill that involves means testing and certain people not getting the benefit vs a universal plan. It seems like a worse strategy honestly.

The other problem is her ultra millionaire tax doesn't really address how wealthy people hide their money or have any real plan to solve that.
 
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The other problem is her ultra millionaire tax doesn't really address how wealthy people hide their money or have any real plan to solve that.

While that may be true it isn't a reason not to do it, though. Frequently, the apologists for the Plutes put us off doing anything because they say we can't do everything. This is a logical fallacy. I'm not saying you're doing this. I'm saying it is part of their bag of trick to make sure nothing ever stops their orgy of theft.

Here's another classic trick:

Liberal: "We should tax the rich at 70%"

Conservative: "Where does 'rich' start?"

Liberal: "$100,000,000 in income is rich, $100,000 in income isn't."

Conservative: "Yes, but tell me the exact line."

Liberal: "That's to be determined democratically by what people consider rich."

Conservative: "Did you hear that? He won't say you won't be taxed higher because you will! He's going to take all your money!!!!"

I've got a solution for tax evasion but everybody's gonna hate it. I don't think I even like it. You have to claim your wealth to protect it. The default is confiscation. All assets you do not enumerate are property of the state. :)

Like I said, too much even for me. I like privacy. But let's put it out there to slide that Overton Window a little. Because going back to 1955 tax rates doesn't seem all that intrusive now, does it?
 
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The idea that Warren's plans are better than Bernie's is basically a media myth that people like Rover peddle and is completely separated from reality. One of these two actually has bills in congress addressing these issues and the other has a blurb on their website about it. But Rover is trolling per usual and pulling out Forbes articles to cuck for the financial industry so go figure...

Or, I could just like Warren and her policies better than Sanders! Its not always a conspiracy, trix. ;) Warren's plans are well thought out, easily explained, and paid for with higher taxes on the super wealthy and corporations.

Sanders plans are vague, pie-in-the-sky, and involve taxing every American back into the Stone Age. Now I know his defense is "but you'll get more money back in the end" but the problem is voters stop listening after "I'm going to tax you back to the Stone Age" and start looking for other candidates.
 
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While that may be true it isn't a reason not to do it, though. Frequently, the apologists for the Plutes put us off doing anything because they say we can't do everything. This is a logical fallacy. I'm not saying you're doing this. I'm saying it is part of their bag of trick to make sure nothing ever stops their orgy of theft.

Here's another classic trick:

Liberal: "We should tax the rich at 70%"

Conservative: "Where does 'rich' start?"

Liberal: "$100,000,000 in income is rich, $100,000 in income isn't."

Conservative: "Yes, but tell me the exact line."

Liberal: "That's to be determined democratically by what people consider rich."

Conservative: "Did you hear that? He won't say you won't be taxed higher because you will! He's going to take all your money!!!!"
My point is you need to do both, you need to tax the rich and actually have a plan to tax the financial transfers of wealth knowing full well they're going to try and hide it offshore in some trust or what have you (Bernie at least has a financial transfer tax which will capture some of this).
Or, I could just like Warren and her policies better than Sanders! Its not always a conspiracy, trix. ;) Warren's plans are well thought out, easily explained, and paid for with higher taxes on the super wealthy and corporations.

Sanders plans are vague, pie-in-the-sky, and involve taxing every American back into the Stone Age. Now I know his defense is "but you'll get more money back in the end" but the problem is voters stop listening after "I'm going to tax you back to the Stone Age" and start looking for other candidates.
Right but none of this is actually true which is why your posts are hilarious.
 
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My point is you need to do both, you need to tax the rich and actually have a plan to tax the financial transfers of wealth knowing full well they're going to try and hide it offshore in some trust or what have you (Bernie at least has a financial transfer tax which will capture some of this).

Sure, I agree completely. Cops cover the exits before they break down the door.
 
Warren's student loan plan is more than fair. People who can afford to pay should pay.

If one American gets for free, so do all. Who are younto say I can pay back and she can't?

Same with healthcare. All in

That is ofnyiur want to get elected and stay there.
 
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ifnyur

Jeez, where'd you go to school?

I tend to think you're right. Means testing* debt relief triggers the "punishing success" trope in every weak mind.

Jubilee means forgiveness of all debts. Maybe Dump'll do it to bribe his derps in 2020? If he made it conditional upon proof of voting for him we'd get mandatory paper trails too. Think outside the box!

* Hee, hee. What if we did it the other way? We forgive your debt if you're making a certain minimum salary. Speaking as a playwriting major, I think this would be hilarious. Think of the justification, too -- you're paying taxes so you're making good on your commitment to the nation. Those philosophers and school teachers who make $50k can go f-ck themselves; they're freeloaders.

That would be pure evil and maybe work.
 
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Who is gubmint to say one gets housing assistance and anther doesn't?

What's most amazing about this stupid conversation going on right now is the people with money are the ones that get the most assistance.
 
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers III: The Wrath of Warren

If one American gets for free, so do all. Who are younto say I can pay back and she can't?

Same with healthcare. All in

That is ofnyiur want to get elected and stay there.

I say pay up mookie. Too bad if you have to give back some of your ill gotten gains. I thought we were all trying to stop making the Dems too cozy with the Plutes? Now we're going to wipe out all of their student loans for them? :confused: That ought to play real well at the vegan co-op.
 
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers III: The Wrath of Warren

If one American gets for free, so do all. Who are younto say I can pay back and she can't?

Same with healthcare. All in

That is ofnyiur want to get elected and stay there.

Sure. While we're at it let's give the oil industry more ****ing money. Cause they don't have enough.
 
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What transfers? *outside of stock sells

You have a house worth $1mm, your 20k annual bill is due 15/4
 
ifnyur

Jeez, where'd you go to school?

I tend to think you're right. Means testing* debt relief triggers the "punishing success" trope in every weak mind.

Jubilee means forgiveness of all debts. Maybe Dump'll do it to bribe his derps in 2020? If he made it conditional upon proof of voting for him we'd get mandatory paper trails too. Think outside the box!

* Hee, hee. What if we did it the other way? We forgive your debt if you're making a certain minimum salary. Speaking as a playwriting major, I think this would be hilarious. Think of the justification, too -- you're paying taxes so you're making good on your commitment to the nation. Those philosophers and school teachers who make $50k can go f-ck themselves; they're freeloaders.

That would be pure evil and maybe work.

Phone has mind of its own :)
 
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