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2020 Democratic Challengers: Boogaloo

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Caiaphas: Do you believe in him?
Nicodemus: I do.
Caiaphas: Self-appointed saviors like your Jesus might stir the people up against the Romans.
Nicodemus: But he is a good man.
Caiaphas: You are a fool, Nicodemus. Good or bad, he is a threat.

-- King of Kings

CAIAPHAS
Fools, you have no perception!
The stakes we are gambling are frighteningly high!
We must crush him completely,
So like John before him, this Jesus must die.
For the sake of the nation, this Jesus must die.
 
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Anyone can play that game with anything. Do you realize how many rapes there were yesterday? At yet in that paragraph you haven't even addressed rape! Your misogyny is only exceeded by your tin-earned political incompetence. You are obviously through as a political force in this nation.

women are raped at levels that nobody has ever seen before. They don't want to mention that.
 
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That's among the top daily goals of Rush Limbaugh and every other right wing pundit trying to take down the Democratic party. That should be a red flag.

Well even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then.

No worries. We'll be ready to replace you guys next time.

BERNIE SANDERS VOTERS HELPED TRUMP WIN AND HERE'S PROOF
Newsweek

According to the analysis of the 2016 Cooperative Congressional Election Survey, fewer than 80 percent of those who voted for Sanders, an independent, in the Democratic primary did the same for Clinton when she faced off against Trump a few months later. What’s more, 12 percent of those who backed Sanders actually cast a vote for Trump.

Sanders -> Trump voters…
WI: 51k
MI: 47k
PA: 116k

Trump win margin…
WI: 22k
MI: 10k
PA: 44k

¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
Sad to watch Bernie Sanders abandon his revolution. We welcome all voters who want to fix our rigged system and bring back our jobs.

http://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-trump-2016-election-654320
 
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No worries. We'll be ready to replace you guys next time.

BERNIE SANDERS VOTERS HELPED TRUMP WIN AND HERE'S PROOF
Newsweek

According to the analysis of the 2016 Cooperative Congressional Election Survey, fewer than 80 percent of those who voted for Sanders, an independent, in the Democratic primary did the same for Clinton when she faced off against Trump a few months later. What’s more, 12 percent of those who backed Sanders actually cast a vote for Trump.

Sanders -> Trump voters…
WI: 51k
MI: 47k
PA: 116k

Trump win margin…
WI: 22k
MI: 10k
PA: 44k

¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
Sad to watch Bernie Sanders abandon his revolution. We welcome all voters who want to fix our rigged system and bring back our jobs.

http://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-trump-2016-election-654320

So not surprised by this. Susan Sarandon got her wish. I hope she's enjoying it.
 
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The issue is that Republicans are driven by hate and fear. When you're driven by that, you play to the extremes. People who worry that illegal immigrants are taking over the country don't want to hear a wonky economic argument against them. They want their politicians to blame them for every ill under the son, throw them in jail, maybe torture the adults a little, and then kick everyone out of the country.

The counter argument of far lefties is we should be just as extreme from a progressive perspective. The problem is Dems aren't as driven by hate as they tend to be happier most likely due to greater education and success. Advocating confiscatory tax policy to screw the rich six ways to Sunday doesn't drive the same emotions on the left as "screwin' da librals' does on the right. Simply put it won't work as well for Dems because their brains are wired differently.
 
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Hey Rover

Would you agree that the D side is also driven by fear and hate of all things !D?
 
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Hey Rover

Would you agree that the D side is also driven by fear and hate of all things !D?

I wouldn't. We're trying to do something positive. R is a dying psycho trying to hurt people to make themselves feel good on the way out.
 
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The article speaks for itself

I don't think you understand how prior conditions work. For example, did it occur to you that a chunk of Bernie voters were protest voters who we lost, and who then rolled over to Dump, when DWS fixed the nom? In other words, votes we never had under the DLC/Clinton regime which we would have had if we had only listened to liberals instead of the same old fraidycat moderates?

When you conflate Democrats who preferred an economic liberal with people who would have given the Democrats a shot if we had a protester like Bernie, you're actually proving EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of what you and Rover think you are. It would just never occurs to people with a DNC-centric worldview who assume anyone who ever considers voting D owes it to them to vote D.

That is the core of the privilege and entitlement that cost Hillary the election and gave us Dump. So thanks a lot for admitting what you cost the world. It's big of you. You still have much to atone for, but admitting it is the first step.
 
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I don't think you understand how prior conditions work. For example, did it occur to you that a chunk of Bernie voters were protest voters who we lost, and who then rolled over to Dump, when DWS fixed the nom? In other words, votes we never had under the DLC/Clinton regime which we would have had if we had only listened to liberals instead of the same old fraidycat moderates?

When you conflate Democrats who preferred an economic liberal with people who would have given the Democrats a shot if we had a protester like Bernie, you're actually proving EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of what you and Rover think you are. It would just never occurs to people with a DNC-centric worldview who assume anyone who ever considers voting D owes it to them to vote D.

That is the core of the privilege and entitlement that cost Hillary the election and gave us Dump. So thanks a lot for admitting what you cost the world. It's big of you. You still have much to atone for, but admitting it is the first step.

Why do you keep pretending the nomination was fixed? You are bordering on Flaggy by even hinting at it. Sanders lost on his own they didn't need to rig it.

Bernie is a great senator who was an awful Dem candidate.
 
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Why do you keep pretending the nomination was fixed?

The nom was fixed in the way that most are -- insiders decide on their favorite and then do whatever they can to help them over the finish line, in exchange for goodies. I'm not saying he would have won if it wasn't, but as it played out she was given a huge advantage. That's not on Hillary; it's the way our politics has always worked. But to claim it was somehow the first unsullied nomination in party history is what's "pretending."
 
The nom was fixed in the way that most are -- insiders decide on a winner and then put their thumb on the scale. I'm not saying he would have won if it wasn't, but as it played out she was given a huge advantage.

He made her expend energy in the primary season and exposed flaws that came out earlier than the powers that be wanted.
 
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He made her expend energy in the primary season and exposed flaws that came out earlier than the powers that be wanted.

Nah. But she f-cked up by offending the protest voters instead of at least paying them lip service. She had to destroy any notion that the status quo was insufficient, and that was so ridiculous to those f-cked by the last four decades that it killed her in the white working class states.

The Democratic establishment has lost touch with people who the Plutes screwed over. It's not lying to them that's a problem -- Dump lies to them, too. But the Dems lie to them in a way that is so obviously mendacious that even those dopes can suss it out.
 
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