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2018 Midterms 2: I Need A Drink!

Thanks. That seems important, since the takeaway from a midterm flip of 15 seats could be positive, when it might actually predict trouble. There are the gubernatorial shifts too, which are a separate statistic.

Here is an article with some historical stats which seem to be accurate...

Since 1946 the median midterm loss is 22 seats.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/9/15550314/2018-elections-midterms-democrats-chances-house
 
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Wow, when I went to bed last night, MI-8 looked like a recount, but as of this morning Slotkin must've pulled a bunch of votes in East Lansing, because she's won by 4 points and over 12,000 votes! :D

Bye bye, Mikey. 👋
 
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MI 8 and 11 both flipped going +20 D compared to 2016. Even though Upton ended up winning MI 6, that one saw Dems increase +18.
 
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While the president’s party usually suffers losses in the midterms, according to Gallup’s polling history, presidents with approval ratings lower than 50 percent lose more seats than those with approval ratings higher than 50 percent. Gallup reports that presidents with approval ratings below 50 percent lose an average of 37 seats, while those with approval ratings above 50 percent lose an average of 14 seats. Since 1946, the average midterm loss for a president’s party has been 25 House seats, Gallup highlights.

https://www.realclearpolicy.com/articles/2018/11/05/five_facts_midterm_elections_110897.html
 
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The three states that pushed Trump across the line in 2016 elected Democratic Senators and Governors. On the other hand, the Senate is going to be a long term GOP hold until progressive people stop all moving to about a dozen states
 
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The three states that pushed Trump across the line in 2016 elected Democratic Senators and Governors. On the other hand, the Senate is going to be a long term GOP hold until progressive people stop all moving to about a dozen states

Well that will also depend who is up. If a bunch of GOPers are up in 2020 it could flip if the Dems take back the WH.
 
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Well that will also depend who is up. If a bunch of GOPers are up in 2020 it could flip if the Dems take back the WH.

The map in 2020 is about the opposite of this year's, I think the Dems are only defending 12? out of 33 seats. The problem is a lot of them are in solid red states, there aren't a lot of places you look at and think "yep, that'll flip."
 
The three states that pushed Trump across the line in 2016 elected Democratic Senators and Governors. On the other hand, the Senate is going to be a long term GOP hold until progressive people stop all moving to about a dozen states

Saw a very foreboding tweet a few months back that said with projected demographic trends, by 2040 30% of the population could be in control of 70% of the Senate. And that 30% is gonna be old white People.
 
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The map in 2020 is about the opposite of this year's, I think the Dems are only defending 12? out of 33 seats. The problem is a lot of them are in solid red states, there aren't a lot of places you look at and think "yep, that'll flip."

I'm ready for a **** ton of outside money to be spent on the Maine 2020 senate race
 
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Senate also went more extreme. Flake, and Corker are gone. Even with just Blackburn it shifted more right. McSally pulls it out in Arizona and Arizona has shifted drastically right in the Senate replacing both McCain and Flake with Trumpers.
 
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Senate also went more extreme. Flake, and Corker are gone. Even with just Blackburn it shifted more right. McSally pulls it out in Arizona and Arizona has shifted drastically right in the Senate replacing both McCain and Flake with Trumpers.

Arizona they might not know til tomorrow. Lots of votes left especially in Maricopa County so both sides are going to be sweating a while on that one.

The map in 2020 is about the opposite of this year's, I think the Dems are only defending 12? out of 33 seats. The problem is a lot of them are in solid red states, there aren't a lot of places you look at and think "yep, that'll flip."

Yeah it wont be easy, but if Trump is polling at 41% there is always a chance.
 
Re: 2018 Midterms 2: I Need A Drink!

Saw a very foreboding tweet a few months back that said with projected demographic trends, by 2040 30% of the population could be in control of 70% of the Senate. And that 30% is gonna be old white People.

538 had a couple interesting demographic points in their live blog last night. When looking at race and gender, the ONLY group that broke R was white men, white women were 49D-48R. When looking at race and age 2 groups went R, whites 45-64 and white 65+, every other group went D.
 
I'm ready for a **** ton of outside money to be spent on the Maine 2020 senate race

If Collins runs for re-election she wins easily. If she doesn’t, I think Dems have around a 90% chance of taking it if they nominate a moderate.
 
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Biggest problem now is Mitch is going to run a Judge factory for 2 years and in 2020 if the Dems don't finally get the wave and the Red still controls the Senate you'll have another Obama situation where nothing will get done cause Mitch will obstruct everything again and you'll have a Democrat spending all his capital on marginal Health Care legislation and fixing the economic disaster left by Trump.

Rinse and Repeat.
 
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Would be huge if the Dems manage to get Montana and Arizona before things are said and done.
 
The map in 2020 is about the opposite of this year's, I think the Dems are only defending 12? out of 33 seats. The problem is a lot of them are in solid red states, there aren't a lot of places you look at and think "yep, that'll flip."

The Senate Democrats have been over performing the partisan makeup of the states just to occasionally be competitive. Those red state moderates just got wiped out in a best case scenario political environment. I can't help but think the Republicans essentially own the Senate now, and with it, the federal judiciary.
 
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The Senate Democrats have been over performing the partisan makeup of the states just to occasionally be competitive. Those red state moderates just got wiped out in a best case scenario political environment. I can't help but think the Republicans essentially own the Senate now, and with it, the federal judiciary.

Puerto Rico needs statehood ASAP
 
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Biggest problem now is Mitch is going to run a Judge factory for 2 years and in 2020 if the Dems don't finally get the wave and the Red still controls the Senate you'll have another Obama situation where nothing will get done cause Mitch will obstruct everything again and you'll have a Democrat spending all his capital on marginal Health Care legislation and fixing the economic disaster left by Trump.

Rinse and Repeat.

I dont think the Dems will half *** Health Care again. Despite the Rs ginning up hate on Immigration and trying everything they can to make that the central issue Health Care *ahem* trumped all. Even the economy being in good shape couldnt help them because of their stance on Health Care. The fact that the Rs were trying to pretend they wanted to protect pre-existing conditions the last two weeks means even the GOP realizes this is their big Achilles Heel right now.

Even in Red States people want Health Care, they want expanded coverage, they want pre-existing conditions and they want to spend less money. The Dems have the numbers to show that, and if they take back power they will definitely use that.

As was said last night, the first thing Pelosi should do is put a bill out there to "fix" ObamaCare amongst other things. Nothing is going to pass anyways but the best way to NOT be called an obstructionist is to put out solutions and force THEM to say no. Spend the next two years making the GOP look bad on health care.
 
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