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2017 Atlantic Hurricane Season: Non-Minnesotans arguing about the weather...

Re: 2017 Atlantic Hurricane Season: Non-Minnesotans arguing about the weather...

Again. No one is saying you can do everything. What I am saying is we're not doing enough. Not even close. And the evidence to that effect is staggering.

Rich people like living near water so this will become A Priority. If it was just the Poors they'd let them die like in New Orleans, but this is important -- it's not just costing lives, it's costing money.
 
This may be a dumb question but did you go out to sea during the actual winds? My landlubber's understanding is that the two great enemies of ships during a storm are fire and sh-t you can ram into. Not much to do about #1, but #2 they solve by actually leaving port and riding it out.

Heck no. I'm on a strictly inland towboat, we only transit the inland rivers (Mississippi, Ohio, Tennessee, etc) and along the gulf ICW (think Pensacola to Brownsville). We start seeing waves greater than 3', and it isn't gonna be a good time (though it would likely take more than that to sink us. 3 inland towboat from another company got themselves in trouble just inside the coast near Corpus at landfall, in rumored 15' swells. 1-2 sank, 1-2 beached, haven't seen anything official. All crews were rescued, miraculously).

Your statement would pertain to ships that are meant for ocean/open water transit.

I've spent this storm tied off to numerous small trees in a bayou 12 miles inland from the coast, halfway between Galveston and Freeport. So we really haven't seen anything too major for wind, mainly up to 30, gusts to 50's.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Harvey?src=hash">#Harvey</a> in perspective. So much rain has fallen, we've had to update the color charts on our graphics in order to effectively map it. <a href="https://t.co/Su7x2K1uuz">pic.twitter.com/Su7x2K1uuz</a></p>— NWS (@NWS) <a href="https://twitter.com/NWS/status/902174274571689984">August 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Heck no. I'm on a strictly inland towboat, we only transit the inland rivers (Mississippi, Ohio, Tennessee, etc) and along the gulf ICW (think Pensacola to Brownsville). We start seeing waves greater than 3', and it isn't gonna be a good time (though it would likely take more than that to sink us. 3 inland towboat from another company got themselves in trouble just inside the coast near Corpus at landfall, in rumored 15' swells. 1-2 sank, 1-2 beached, haven't seen anything official. All crews were rescued, miraculously).

Your statement would pertain to ships that are meant for ocean/open water transit.

I've spent this storm tied off to numerous small trees in a bayou 12 miles inland from the coast, halfway between Galveston and Freeport. So we really haven't seen anything too major for wind, mainly up to 30, gusts to 50's.

How is the water level in your bayou??
 
How is the water level in your bayou??

I'd say 4-5' higher than normal. It's worse just up the creek a little bit, it widens out a good bit where I am.

I don't have a specific amount of rainfall for my location, but areas close to me that have had official figures noted are 20-25" thus far.
 
Re: 2017 Atlantic Hurricane Season: Non-Minnesotans arguing about the weather...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Harvey?src=hash">#Harvey</a> in perspective. So much rain has fallen, we've had to update the color charts on our graphics in order to effectively map it. <a href="https://t.co/Su7x2K1uuz">pic.twitter.com/Su7x2K1uuz</a></p>— NWS (@NWS) <a href="https://twitter.com/NWS/status/902174274571689984">August 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Top Comment Candidate: "This is the only time I ****ing hate purple rain"
 
Re: 2017 Atlantic Hurricane Season: Non-Minnesotans arguing about the weather...

No operations in/out of IAH until Friday at noon at the earliest. Spent about 6 or 7 hours cancelling flights today. Only 1 runway open so they are just going to have humanitarian flights operate there for the next couple days. There were still a few hundred passengers stuck in the terminal last I heard, they should all be out by the end of the day. HOU had to bring a controller in today via helicopter.

It's a giant cluster****.
 
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I saw images of Delta jets almost completely submerged.
 
Re: 2017 Atlantic Hurricane Season: Non-Minnesotans arguing about the weather...

Could be. I thought I saw it on a news site, but could have been Facebook I suppose.
 
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I honesty can't even find the article or post where I saw it. *shrug*
 
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CNN here breaking news on Harvey. Strengthening and poised to hit Texas again!!!!
 
Re: 2017 Atlantic Hurricane Season: Non-Minnesotans arguing about the weather...

Heavy rains are back, have been for last 4-5 hours according to my Captain.

Future radar doesn't show signs of letting up through the better part of the night atleast, too.

I'll be honest, it's been a pretty spot on job by the meteorologists on this. You hear 50+ inches of rain and wonder if it's a bit of hype/doom and gloom, but those numbers will be hit.
 
Re: 2017 Atlantic Hurricane Season: Non-Minnesotans arguing about the weather...

Heavy rains are back, have been for last 4-5 hours according to my Captain.

Future radar doesn't show signs of letting up through the better part of the night atleast, too.

I'll be honest, it's been a pretty spot on job by the meteorologists on this. You hear 50+ inches of rain and wonder if it's a bit of hype/doom and gloom, but those numbers will be hit.

I agree that the meteorologists did a great job. tD will probably cut their funding more now.
 
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I can't wrap my head around the amount of rain this storm has dumped...
 
Re: 2017 Atlantic Hurricane Season: Non-Minnesotans arguing about the weather...

I can't wrap my head around the amount of rain this storm has dumped...
It is pretty hard to fathom.

Being from the northern part of the country, I always like to think of it in terms of snow. Since, on average, one inch or rain equals about 13 inches of snow, that storm would be about 650 inches of snow, or 50+ feet. :eek:

I assume somewhere my government has been planning to cover that eventuality.
 
Re: 2017 Atlantic Hurricane Season: Non-Minnesotans arguing about the weather...

There is a chemical plant in Crosby, TX (NE of Houston) that is experiencing heavy flooding. They have/are evacuating the area in anticipation of a possible anhydrous ammonia explosion within the next 8 hours. The plant has lost or reduced the capacity to keep it cool.

http://www.arkema-americas.com/en/social-responsibility/incident-news/
 
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