2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

[beaverhockeyfan]

Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

The WCHA has 69 non-conference games this year, not including the one game between Alaska and Alaska-Anchorage.

27 Possible NCHC Games (0-2-0)
25 Possible Big10 Games (0-0-0)
8 Possible Hockey East Games (0-0-0)
8 Possible Atlantic Hockey Games (0-0-0)
7 Possible ECAC Games (0-0-0)

ALABAMA-HUNTSVILLE (0-0-0)
-2 at Connecticut
-2 at St. Cloud State
-vs. Massachusetts (Minneapolis, MN)
-vs. Minnesota/Mercyhurst (Minneapolis, MN)

ALASKA (0-0-0)
-at Alaska-Anchorage
-vs. Minnesota (Anchorage, AK)
-Canisius
-Nebraska-Omaha
-2 at Notre Dame

ALASKA-ANCHORAGE (0-0-0)
-Minnesota
-Alaska
-vs. Nebraska-Omaha (Fairbanks, AK)
-vs. Canisius (Fairbanks, AK)
-2 at Penn State

BEMIDJI STATE (0-0-0)
-2 at North Dakota
-2 with Princeton
-at Minnesota-Duluth
-Minnesota Duluth
-vs. St. Cloud State (St. Paul, MN)
-vs. Minnesota/Minnesota-Duluth (St. Paul, MN)

BOWLING GREEN (0-0-0)
-Western Michigan
-at Western Michigan
-Ohio State
-at Ohio State
-2 at Miami
-vs. RIT (Toledo, OH)
-with Mercyhurst

FERRIS STATE (0-0-0)
-Western Michigan
-at Western Michigan
-Michigan
-at Michigan State
-Michigan State
-vs. Robert Morris (Pittsburgh, PA)
-vs. Boston College/Quinnipiac (Pittsburgh, PA)

LAKE SUPERIOR STATE (0-0-0)
-2 with Michigan State
-2 at Michigan
-2 at Nebraska-Omaha

MICHIGAN TECH (0-2-0)
-2 at Minnesota Duluth L 6-0, L 4-3
-2 at Michigan
-2 at Michigan State
-vs. Michigan (Detroit, MI)
-vs. Western Michigan/Michigan State (Detroit, MI)
-2 at Notre Dame

MINNESOTA STATE (0-0-0)
-2 with St. Cloud State
-Minnesota
-at Minnesota
-2 at Princeton

NORTHERN MICHIGAN (0-0-0)
-2 vs. Wisconsin (at Green Bay)
-2 at Wisconsin
-2 with Nebraska-Omaha
-vs. Colorado College/Cornell/Mercyhurst (Estero, FL)
-vs. Colorado College/Cornell/Mercyhurst (Estero, FL)

 

[John J. MacInnes]

Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

Looking for an explanation for this play.

In the WCHA conference call to start the season, supervisor of officials Greg Shepherd claimed that the referees have been instructed to enforce the rule book more strongly (as the SofO does every season in every league). That also once again placed special emphasis on hits from behind and to the head. With that in mind, watch the UAH-FSU highlights from Sunday and scroll to the 2:40 mark for the full speed replay of the Max McHugh goal (replay at 3:05).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkNv6I_UVUc

Dorantes takes 4 strides towards the crease and lines up Kestner for a mid-back cross check in the back, cleaning out his own goalie in the process. Kestner has no idea it's coming, and comes close to going head first into the post with Dorantes riding his back. According to the box score, there was no penalty assessed.

That's the kind of hit that can cause severe injury, and if I was Mike Corbett I'd be pretty ****ed off at the no-call. But if I was a Ferris fan, I think I might be just as upset - the Bulldogs have been labeled (rightly or wrongly) as a team who frequently gets involved in the dark side of hockey, and incidents like this can only add to the argument that it's accurate. I like my team to be tough, but not outwardly flat out dirty like that.

 

[uaafanblog]

Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

Looking for an explanation for this play.

In the WCHA conference call to start the season, supervisor of officials Greg Shepherd claimed that the referees have been instructed to enforce the rule book more strongly (as the SofO does every season in every league). That also once again placed special emphasis on hits from behind and to the head. With that in mind, watch the UAH-FSU highlights from Sunday and scroll to the 2:40 mark for the full speed replay of the Max McHugh goal (replay at 3:05).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkNv6I_UVUc

Dorantes takes 4 strides towards the crease and lines up Kestner for a mid-back cross check in the back, cleaning out his own goalie in the process. Kestner has no idea it's coming, and comes close to going head first into the post with Dorantes riding his back. According to the box score, there was no penalty assessed.

That's the kind of hit that can cause severe injury, and if I was Mike Corbett I'd be pretty ****ed off at the no-call. But if I was a Ferris fan, I think I might be just as upset - the Bulldogs have been labeled (rightly or wrongly) as a team who frequently gets involved in the dark side of hockey, and incidents like this can only add to the argument that it's accurate. I like my team to be tough, but not outwardly flat out dirty like that.

In past seasons, your post would result in an edit to the video posted on youtube. Make a phone call to the wcha ... just to ask about that play. Send a couple of emails to coaches with the league carbon-copied and they'll almost certainly edit/delete the offending action from the video thereby making it all good.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

In past seasons, your post would result in an edit to the video posted on youtube. Make a phone call to the wcha ... just to ask about that play. Send a couple of emails to coaches with the league carbon-copied and they'll almost certainly edit/delete the offending action from the video thereby making it all good.

your discussion on here is so productive.

 

[gfmorris]

Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

Looking for an explanation for this play.

In the WCHA conference call to start the season, supervisor of officials Greg Shepherd claimed that the referees have been instructed to enforce the rule book more strongly (as the SofO does every season in every league). That also once again placed special emphasis on hits from behind and to the head. With that in mind, watch the UAH-FSU highlights from Sunday and scroll to the 2:40 mark for the full speed replay of the Max McHugh goal (replay at 3:05).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkNv6I_UVUc

Dorantes takes 4 strides towards the crease and lines up Kestner for a mid-back cross check in the back, cleaning out his own goalie in the process. Kestner has no idea it's coming, and comes close to going head first into the post with Dorantes riding his back. According to the box score, there was no penalty assessed.

That's the kind of hit that can cause severe injury, and if I was Mike Corbett I'd be pretty ****ed off at the no-call. But if I was a Ferris fan, I think I might be just as upset - the Bulldogs have been labeled (rightly or wrongly) as a team who frequently gets involved in the dark side of hockey, and incidents like this can only add to the argument that it's accurate. I like my team to be tough, but not outwardly flat out dirty like that.

Shoot, Kestner got taken down by Dorantes about :10 before that in behind the net with one that you could potentially call, too. God bless Kesty — 18 months ago, he wouldn't have recovered from that so quickly. I love it when a skinnier player ends up developing the grit to play at this level with guys who want to cream you if they can get away with it.

GFM

 

[BGDrew]

Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

Every week coaches request that certain hits or calls be sent to the league office for review.

 

[uaafanblog]

Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

your discussion on here is so productive.

If you haven't seen the wcha delete edit their videos after some play became controversial then you're drunk far too often. Cut back on the booze.

 

[manurespreader]

Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

If you haven't seen the wcha delete edit their videos after some play became controversial then you're drunk far too often. Cut back on the booze.

I agree Ferris has a reputation for a reason. Whether they edit videos or not doesn't mean they don't look at the play.

 

[uaafanblog]

Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

Whether they edit videos or not doesn't mean they don't look at the play.

The point is ... the league is exclusively interested in keeping themselves from looking bad. They have no real interest in controversy ... they will address outrageous acts that cannot be denied. But if there is any argument as to whether "action X" was problematic then they'll essentially cover it up (though that phrase has excessively conspiratorial connotations). It happened plenty in the old WCHA and that has continued in the new WCHA. These guys in league office are self-involved hacks only interested in anything that benefits them (or at least doesn't harm them).

 

[gfmorris]

Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

Week 1 results for BELOW show a big exchange between UAH and FSU, with the Chargers moving from "bad" to "mediocre".

GFM

 

[manurespreader]

Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

I saw a college hockey podcast on twitter which promoted itself as a national preview. The first thing the guys says is, " I'm Ryan Lambert". and true to form it was "HE all the way and everyone else is terrible. In fact why do they even play." ......He pretty much made fun of the whole of college hockey outside Boston. It was a complete waste of an hour. Though he did say BU was really good. Which everyone already knows.

 

[Squarebanks]

I saw a college hockey podcast on twitter which promoted itself as a national preview. The first thing the guys says is, " I'm Ryan Lambert". and true to form it was "HE all the way and everyone else is terrible. In fact why do they even play." ......He pretty much made fun of the whole of college hockey outside Boston. It was a complete waste of an hour. Though he did say BU was really good. Which everyone already knows.

So in other words just like every other Boston homer for every sport, ever.

 

[manurespreader]

Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

So in other words just like every other Boston homer for every sport, ever.

Well yes, but much worse. I mean jim Connelly is biased, but at least he doesn't actually make fun of everyone else. I should have known as soon as I heard his name.

 

[Dirty Dream No. 2]

Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

I saw a college hockey podcast on twitter which promoted itself as a national preview. The first thing the guys says is, " I'm Ryan Lambert". and true to form it was "HE all the way and everyone else is terrible. In fact why do they even play." ......He pretty much made fun of the whole of college hockey outside Boston. It was a complete waste of an hour. Though he did say BU was really good. Which everyone already knows.

I read what I thought was his entire story on We Read All Emails For The NSA (aka Marisa Mayer's Golden Parachute aka Yahoo) on how awesome BU is but then I realized that I only read the first half. EX-HAUST-ING! It was almost as long as War and Peace.

If I was his editor I would have told him to never turn in a story to me that long ever again.

 

[Dirty Dream No. 2]

Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

OK, back to the new WCHA. I have a question for NMU fans. If Lakeview Arena is 200x85, why was Berry Events Center built at 200x100?

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

I think it may be a bit of shtick for Lambert. He seems to enjoy getting a rise out of North Dakota fans.

 

[bigblue_dl]

Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

OK, back to the new WCHA. I have a question for NMU fans. If Lakeview Arena is 200x85, why was Berry Events Center built at 200x100?

I believe Berry was built to also be a US Speed Skating short track training center, thus, Olympic ice. I'm sure one of the NMU people can correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[RaceBoarder]

Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

I believe Berry was built to also be a US Speed Skating short track training center, thus, Olympic ice. I'm sure one of the NMU people can correct me if I'm wrong.

That's exactly it. 200x100 are the dimensions specified for that.

 

[uaafanblog]

Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

I think it may be a bit of shtick for Lambert. He seems to enjoy getting a rise out of North Dakota fans.

Who doesn't?

 

[aparch]

OK, back to the new WCHA. I have a question for NMU fans. If Lakeview Arena is 200x85, why was Berry Events Center built at 200x100?

I believe Berry was built to also be a US Speed Skating short track training center, thus, Olympic ice. I'm sure one of the NMU people can correct me if I'm wrong.

That's exactly it. 200x100 are the dimensions specified for that.

Yes, it was built for the USOEC Short Track Speed Skating program to use as well as for the hockey and basketball teams.

Back in the late 90's, NMU commissioned studies for renovations needed at Lakeview Arena in order to continue advancing the hockey program. Because Lakeview is owned by the City of Marquette, and NMU was only renting the facility, the City of Marquette balked at the costs of the improvements. It was around the same time that NMU was looking at building a speed skating track on the west side of the PIEF. And NMU was also looking into renovating Hedgecock since part of the building was unused.

The costs of adding onto the PIEF, renovating Hedgecock, and renovating an ice arena that wasn't their own caused NMU to find that building a multi-purpose venue on campus to house all these sports would be better cost effective than patching the old buildings.

So that lead to the building of the Berry. The rink size was chosen as 200x100 to accommodate speed skating. It also helped that half of the college rinks being built at the time were being built to international or hybrid standards.
(Seventeen new rinks from 1989 to 1999. Nine non-NHL. SCSU '89, UAF '90, Minnesota '93, UMass '93, MSU-M '95, UNH '95, CC '98, Wisconsin '98, NMU '99)

As for the fan accommodations, the Berry was originally designed to be slightly larger and much deeper, allowing those entering the building to walk directly onto the concourse, but site conditions prevented the realization of the original plans and the design was changed to better fit the area available. This caused the slight half flight of stairs needed to go from the entry to the concourse.

What the fans didn't see thanks to the scarcely decorated precast concrete walls, was the amenities that were built for the team. Dedicated weight/workout rooms for the hockey team (so the athletes could stay in the building and not need to fight for the PIEF equipment). Large team conference rooms to study video, and a spacious lockerroom that (at the time) rivaled some NHL lockerrooms in 1999.

On the fan side, all they saw was a bland concrete building with awkward seats (which were adjusted to sit higher allowing more leg room in 2001), and the lack of a donor room and no booze sales caused locals to poo-poo the new building.

Side note, it's been 18 years. There is a generation of MQT locals who have never seen an NMU game at Lakeview, and there are some locals are still pi**ed with the BEC as a venue. Then again, those people are still pi**ed that the Palestra was torn down.



TL;dr: Olympic speed skating is the reason for the BEC's size.