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2015 Pairwise Discussion & Predictions

Re: 2015 Pairwise Discussion & Predictions

TonyTheTiger20 said:
The other thread is going to be locked soon so with the end of the season approaching, I figured it would be time to split the topics.

We'll use this thread for the tournament discussion and I'll create a new Posters Poll thread.

Here's the link to the Pairwise Predictor.

And lastly, I put up a Bracketology on BCI this afternoon.
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TTT, BC is currently the #1 team... do you think that being in the worst conference (based upon current rankings) this year will hurt them in March?
 
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Call It said:
TTT, BC is currently the #1 team... do you think that being in the worst conference (based upon current rankings) this year will hurt them in March?
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Splitting hairs but Hockey East is worse than the CHA? 2 top 10 for HE (#1 #7) CHA 1 top 10 (#10)
 
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brookyone said:
The first year for a CHA auto-bid, and at this point anyway...looking like the first year the CHA possibly, potentially, may not have a legit top 8 team.
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Once you get beyond the top five, it doesn't look like there is a ton of difference between the other TUC teams. There were years that I though the field of teams that were a threat to win it all was a little deeper, but maybe that's just how I'm remembering it.
 
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ARM said:
Once you get beyond the top five, it doesn't look like there is a ton of difference between the other TUC teams. There were years that I though the field of teams that were a threat to win it all was a little deeper, but maybe that's just how I'm remembering it.
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Well -- I think what you're seeing this year isn't so much "weaker" teams at the bottom, as just a lot of parity and the top 3 teams are INCREDIBLY good.
 
Re: 2015 Pairwise Discussion & Predictions

Call It said:
TTT, BC is currently the #1 team... do you think that being in the worst conference (based upon current rankings) this year will hurt them in March?
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TonyTheTiger20 said:
How so? If they are #1 they are #1.
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Sorry, I didn't mean for this to be so curt, I was walking into a meeting and was rushed.

What I mean is -- if come March they are 1st in the PWR, then from a rankings perspective it doesn't matter if they had a tough or a weak schedule. They won enough games with the schedule they had to be #1 in the PWR.

Now having said that, will having a weak schedule make them unprepared for the NCAA tournament? That remains to be seen. Do I think so? No, because with the exception of the rivalry game with BU, we've kicked the everyloving crap out of every good team we've played. I really don't think it matters all that much. I think there's something to what the players have been saying which is "we practice against the best team in the country 6 days a week."

Hockey East was pretty weak in men's in 2012 (? I think, might have been 2010, it's easy to lose track when you win so many :D) but BC ran the table in the tournaments to win the national title. So, I think it has more to do with how well your team does to prepare itself for the tournament than how well your team's opponents prepare your team for the tournament.
 
Re: 2015 Pairwise Discussion & Predictions

TonyTheTiger20 said:
So, I think it has more to do with how well your team does to prepare itself for the tournament than how well your team's opponents prepare your team for the tournament.
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I'd agree with that, but there is also value in how the opponents prepare you. Teams learn a lot about themselves when pushed to the limit. Wisconsin and Minnesota may have preferred to have their series four weeks later, but there is still value in playing it now. You're forced to make decisions and plays faster, because the opponent is on you quicker than usual. I've seen enough Wisconsin teams to know that they'll be better in March than they were last weekend. BC did the fly around thing in the first period against BU, and the Terriers were still there. I think that game helped the Eagles more than all the games combined where they pounded some overmatched opponent. Practice is great, but practice speed is not game speed. The best thing that could happen to BC is if it catches Q, BU, or Harvard on a night where that team is on top of its game. Because at some point, there will be a stronger test.
 
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PWR if scores hold (Minny win, Wisco lose):

Rank Team Comparisons Won RPI
1 Boston College 15 0.6972
2 Minnesota 14 0.6711
3 Quinnipiac 13 0.6255
4 Wisconsin 12 0.6210
5 Harvard 11 0.5989
6 Minnesota-Duluth 10 0.5749
7 Boston University 8 0.5690
8 Clarkson 8 0.5625
9 Ohio State 6 0.5507
10 Cornell 6 0.5485
11 Mercyhurst 6 0.5451
12 Bemidji State 5 0.5419
13 St. Lawrence 3 0.5441
14 North Dakota 2 0.5255
15 Dartmouth 1 0.5184
16 Princeton 0 0.5118
 
Re: 2015 Pairwise Discussion & Predictions

tonythetiger20 said:
pwr if scores hold (minny win, wisco lose):

Rank team comparisons won rpi
1 boston college 15 0.6972
2 minnesota 14 0.6711
3 quinnipiac 13 0.6255
4 wisconsin 12 0.6210
5 harvard 11 0.5989
6 minnesota-duluth 10 0.5749
7 boston university 8 0.5690
8 clarkson 8 0.5625
9 ohio state 6 0.5507
10 cornell 6 0.5485
11 mercyhurst 6 0.5451
12 bemidji state 5 0.5419
13 st. Lawrence 3 0.5441
14 north dakota 2 0.5255
15 dartmouth 1 0.5184
16 princeton 0 0.5118
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on wisconsin!!!
Cupcake!!!
 
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Ted Knight said:
on wisconsin!!!
Cupcake!!!
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The silver lining to getting beat by Bemidji and dropping to 4th in the Pairwise is moving to the other side of the bracket, away from Minnesota (though how long that lasts is anybody's guess).
 
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robertearle said:
The silver lining to getting beat by Bemidji and dropping to 4th in the Pairwise is moving to the other side of the bracket, away from Minnesota (though how long that lasts is anybody's guess).
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Quinni made a determined effort to drop a place today too...
 
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Call It said:
Cupcake is right. Probably a bad game to watch BC play, UVM isn't very good. Being in Hockey East might hurt BC in March.
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They're all bad games to watch BC play. This season has been a bunch of practices interspersed with the occasional Harvard or BU or QU game unfortunately.
 
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BC's Carpenter & Skarupa are very very good & they seem to make each other better. When March rolls around, the opposing coach is going to need to develop a 5 man unit to just keep those 2 off the score board. Yes BC has others that can score but the offense runs through these 2. I feel like the D-man on this team get a lot of assists just by making a breakout pass from behind their net.
 
Re: 2015 Pairwise Discussion & Predictions

Call It said:
When March rolls around, the opposing coach is going to need to develop a 5 man unit to just keep those 2 off the score board. Yes BC has others that can score but the offense runs through these 2.
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We like when teams do that :D

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools...o_pdf/2014-15/box_score/stats_20150111aaa.pdf

I feel like the D-man on this team get a lot of assists just by making a breakout pass from behind their net.
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Oh man, you haven't seen enough of BC then. Pfalzer and Bender spend more time behind the opposing net than their own. I've never seen a team in men's or women's hockey whose defensemen play as deep as BC's.
 
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