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2015-2016 Division I Commitments

Re: 2015-2016 Division I Commitments

Seriously? We all know that a "commitment" is not much different than an animal peeing on a tree. It is marking territory ( a roster spot) for both the student-athlete and the coaching staff. We know it ultimately comes down to getting through Clearing House, admission to the institution, and signing an NLI before it is cast in stone.

I think the reaction you cite says more about the committee, than it does about the process of announcing a commitment. They need to not have their panties in a bunch and get over it. It is part of the collegiate athletics landscape.

Hux is right about the process - you are never formally committed to a school until the NLI is signed and/or admission letter arrives. And even then you have to graduate from high school and maintain acceptable academics. That being said, the admissions offices at most schools are involved long before this formal commitment, reviewing grades and (if available) test scores to at least give SOME indication of admissibility to player. Two points:

- Ivy league schools are the exception - admissions officers don't typically take a hard look at "committed" players academics until after the junior year is complete. So any "committed" player has only the coaches (and their own college advisor's) input on admissibility until then, which is why kids with below top 10% academics are taking on a significant risk committing early to an Ivy (much more so than most other D1 schools). It's why I am very concerned for a player when I read that a sophomore has committed to an Ivy - the risk level here is extraordinary in most cases and this manifests itself every year in early commitment kids not getting their likely letter in the Fall and being cast aside (note the two Canadian early commit recruits this year that won't be playing for Harvard as an example). The Ivy League admission departments need to align with the school's stated position that they are participating in Division 1 sports and the timeline of that process and start participating in the recruiting process earlier to avoid leaving these kids out to dry too late to recover. Alternatively, the Ivies should drop to Division 3 (never happen) where the process is more in line with their timeline.

- It appears to me that Junior level commitments (sophomore/freshman are tricky everywhere) at non-Ivy schools are tenuous based more on player development and/or better players than admissions. This is because the admissions departments are more participative earlier in the process and the academics better screened. And generally, the percentage of applicants admitted at these schools is usually higher so the bar may be lower than at Harvard, Princeton, Yale, etc.
 
Re: 2015-2016 Division I Commitments

Seriously? We all know that a "commitment" is not much different than an animal peeing on a tree. It is marking territory ( a roster spot) for both the student-athlete and the coaching staff. We know it ultimately comes down to getting through Clearing House, admission to the institution, and signing an NLI before it is cast in stone.

I think the reaction you cite says more about the committee, than it does about the process of announcing a commitment. They need to not have their panties in a bunch and get over it. It is part of the collegiate athletics landscape.

Perhaps but you have to remember they are not there to simply admit athletes. They are responsible for building an ENTIRE student body. At least at Harvard, this type of information is not looked upon as being helpful to the process. I'm just going on conversations with admission committee members. I work with them so I'm coming from a place where I can speak to this issue as opposed to others who are simply voicing an opinion.
 
Re: 2015-2016 Division I Commitments

The Ivy League admission departments need to align with the school's stated position that they are participating in Division 1 sports and the timeline of that process and start participating in the recruiting process earlier to avoid leaving these kids out to dry too late to recover. Alternatively, the Ivies should drop to Division 3 (never happen) where the process is more in line with their timeline.

Won't happen. Heck, we lose kids to Stanford because they are able to commit to a scholarship and financial aid far earlier than we can in the admissions process. I had a Harvard coach tell me this point blank years ago when my cousin was applying and was the object of recruiting from other schools as well as Harvard. It frustrated the heck out of this coach because his hands were tied by the admissions policy. It isn't going to change any time soon.
 
It's not just the parents; admissions officers are also curious and somewhat disturbed to read about kids who are all but signed, sealed and delivered to a particular school. I know because I do some admissions work for Harvard and I can tell you first hand that some of what is written here doesn't sit well with the Committee. It's fine to speculate on where a kid may or may not go but until the letter (or email really) of admit goes out, to say that a recruit is bound for Harvard, BC or Minnesota before they are actually admitted is premature at best and at worst, highly misleading and can affect someone's path to college. Just sayin'.

Hey Skate, I'd say stay off the forum if what you read doesn't sit well with you and admissions. Just sayin
 
Re: 2015-2016 Division I Commitments

Perhaps but you have to remember they are not there to simply admit athletes. They are responsible for building an ENTIRE student body. At least at Harvard, this type of information is not looked upon as being helpful to the process. I'm just going on conversations with admission committee members. I work with them so I'm coming from a place where I can speak to this issue as opposed to others who are simply voicing an opinion.

I am fully cognizant of that fact, and would not want to be in their shoes. I can imagine you have thousands of applicants you could throw a blanket over and differentiating who has the right stuff and who doesn't comes down to splitting hairs. Given that, they shouldn't be worrying about whether a prospective student athlete has decided where they want to go and has publicly stated such.

Let's put it this way. The salesman (the coach) convinces a potential customer (the student-athlete) to buy a car (the school/program). The customer tells the salesman yes, then whips out his smartphone and posts that he is going to buy a certain car on his Facebook page. Yet, the bean counter that runs the numbers and checks the customer's credit (the admissions committee) is alerted to the fact that the customer is going to buy the car and gets his panties in a bunch that the customer had the temerity to say he was going to buy said conveyance before the numbers were run. Absolutely unthinkable, and as such he frowns upon the customer actually becoming a customer.

That, good sir, is what my grandmother would call being a little too big for one's britches.
 
Re: 2015-2016 Division I Commitments

Hey Skate, I'd say stay off the forum if what you read doesn't sit well with you and admissions. Just sayin

Oh really. And if I don't...?

Personally, I don't care who commits or who doesn't to what school. It doesn't affect the interviewing that I do for prospective applicants. And for the record, I was responding to the earlier post where the parent took exception to information posted about his daughter that was misleading.
 
Re: 2015-2016 Division I Commitments

Let's put it this way. The salesman (the coach) convinces a potential customer (the student-athlete) to buy a car (the school/program). The customer tells the salesman yes, then whips out his smartphone and posts that he is going to buy a certain car on his Facebook page. Yet, the bean counter that runs the numbers and checks the customer's credit (the admissions committee) is alerted to the fact that the customer is going to buy the car and gets his panties in a bunch that the customer had the temerity to say he was going to buy said conveyance before the numbers were run. Absolutely unthinkable, and as such he frowns upon the customer actually becoming a customer.

My turn. Seriously Hux? Buying a car equates to applying and getting accepted to college? Really? That simple eh? Well I'm sure the applicants I've spoken to this year will be relieved to know that they fretted over nothing. Shoot, who knew that filling out a college app was as easy as applying for financing for a car?

I don't speak for the committee. I can only speak to what I do for them. And if I encounter applicants who start in with "Well, of course, I'm committed to playing hockey for Harvard", great but let's not put the cart before the horse, okay? Fortunately, all the applicants I've interviewed including a football player were honest about their school choices and very respectful of the process. That's all I'm saying here. No need to get all riled up just because I'm taking my cues from the school. Give it a rest, okay?
 
Oh really. And if I don't...?

Personally, I don't care who commits or who doesn't to what school. It doesn't affect the interviewing that I do for prospective applicants. And for the record, I was responding to the earlier post where the parent took exception to information posted about his daughter that was misleading.
No threat intended.... just saying if you don' t care for the content on here, don't read it. Anyone who takes what is written on opinion forums as "fact", is a fool. So go patrol or enforce somewhere else. You should know better. Go work for the NCAA.... Just sayin
 
My turn. Seriously Hux? Buying a car equates to applying and getting accepted to college? Really? That simple eh? Well I'm sure the applicants I've spoken to this year will be relieved to know that they fretted over nothing. Shoot, who knew that filling out a college app was as easy as applying for financing for a car?

I don't speak for the committee. I can only speak to what I do for them. And if I encounter applicants who start in with "Well, of course, I'm committed to playing hockey for Harvard", great but let's not put the cart before the horse, okay? Fortunately, all the applicants I've interviewed including a football player were honest about their school choices and very respectful of the process. That's all I'm saying here. No need to get all riled up just because I'm taking my cues from the school. Give it a rest, okay?

Ok Skate.... You work for Harvard and you are on the this forum discussing their business? Is so, may I suggest you give your head a shake and think about that for a moment... Obviously you didn't attend Harvard.

When did Harvard start promoting communism?
 
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Ok Skate.... You work for Harvard and you are on the this forum discussing their business? Is so, may I suggest you give your head a shake and think about that for a moment... Obviously you didn't attend Harvard.

When did Harvard start promoting communism?

Expropriate the expropriators!
 
Re: 2015-2016 Division I Commitments

My turn. Seriously Hux? Buying a car equates to applying and getting accepted to college? Really? That simple eh? Well I'm sure the applicants I've spoken to this year will be relieved to know that they fretted over nothing. Shoot, who knew that filling out a college app was as easy as applying for financing for a car?

I don't speak for the committee. I can only speak to what I do for them. And if I encounter applicants who start in with "Well, of course, I'm committed to playing hockey for Harvard", great but let's not put the cart before the horse, okay? Fortunately, all the applicants I've interviewed including a football player were honest about their school choices and very respectful of the process. That's all I'm saying here. No need to get all riled up just because I'm taking my cues from the school. Give it a rest, okay?

I liked it and could totally relate. I didn't go to Harvard though :)
 
Re: 2015-2016 Division I Commitments

Player....................Position ...............(Current Team) .......................Hometown

(Based on reliable info, but to paraphrase Yogi, "It ain't official 'til it's official.")
* Denotes commitments are official, as announced by the school


Bemidji State

Boston College
Katie Burt .........................D ............................(East Coast Wizards) .....................Winthrop, MA

Boston University

Brown

Clarkson

Colgate
Bailey Larson .....................F .......................(USA 18s/Chicago Mission) ...........................Sycamore, IL

Connecticut

Cornell

Dartmouth

Harvard

Lindenwood

Maine

Mercyhurst

Minnesota
Sarah Potomak .................F .....................(CAN 18s/Pursuit of Excellence) ......................Aldergrove, BC

Minnesota State

New Hampshire
Taylor Wenczkowski ...........F ......................(USA 18s/Boston Shamrocks) .......................Rochester, NH

North Dakota

Northeastern
Brittany Bugalski ................G..........................(USA 18s/Loomis Chaffee) ......................Lake Worth, FL
Morgan Crane ....................F ......................................(CYA) .......................................Winnetka, IL
Maddie Hartman .................D ......................................(CYA) .......................................Deer Park, IL

Ohio State
Mikalea Gardner .................D ................................(Chicago Fury) ...................................Plainfield, IL

Penn State
Daniela Paniccia .................G .................................(Oakville Ice) .....................................Oakville, ON

Princeton

Providence

Quinnipiac

Rochester

Robert Morris

Rensselaer

St. Cloud State

St. Lawrence

Syracuse

Union

Vermont

Wisconsin
Audrey Warner ...................F .................................(Ohio Flames) ...............................Cleveland, OH

Yale
Emma Vlasic ......................F ......................................(CYA) .......................................Wilmette, IL

U.S. 9: Illinois 5, Florida, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, and Ohio 1 each

Canada 2: British Columbia, and Ontario 1 each
 
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List updated to reflect US and Canadian players named to U18 teams.
 
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Syracuse
Madison Welch..................G.............(Buffalo Bison)................................NY
 
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Quinnipiac
Claire Lachner.............................G.............................Commerce, MI

(per FB)
 
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