Hux
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Well, since I am here at Northeastern I will go direct to the inner sanctum and see what I can get for an answer.
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2015-2016 Division I Commitments
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Well, since I am here at Northeastern I will go direct to the inner sanctum and see what I can get for an answer.
Re: 2015-2016 Division I Commitments
I don't really know the CYA girls (I'm a Northeast guy). But I am very familiar with Bugalski. She's a strong, quick, solid goaltender, and definitely has a shot for the U18 National Team this summer-she is one of the top prospects for the 16's age group.
I don't really know the CYA girls (I'm a Northeast guy). But I am very familiar with Bugalski. She's a strong, quick, solid goaltender, and definitely has a shot for the U18 National Team this summer-she is one of the top prospects for the 16's age group.
HockeyEast33
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Don't know if the birth years line up, but hard to imagine Katie Burt (BC elsewhere in this thread) not making the U18 team when she is eligible.
North East DAD
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She could have been selected this past summer. There are other
97's on the roster.
HockeyEast33
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Re: 2015-2016 Division I Commitments
True - I personally don't usually think of someone more than 1 birth year removed from the oldest kids as being a likely candidate - but you are absolutely correct. But very ununusual for there to be more than 1 or 2 players earlier than the last 2 eligible years (95 was the oldest birth year for the current team). If she is a 97, then she will be most likely to be picked next year. Alway a lot of politics involved unfortunately and the Wizards don't have a lot of influence (but MA Hockey does).
True - I personally don't usually think of someone more than 1 birth year removed from the oldest kids as being a likely candidate - but you are absolutely correct. But very ununusual for there to be more than 1 or 2 players earlier than the last 2 eligible years (95 was the oldest birth year for the current team). If she is a 97, then she will be most likely to be picked next year. Alway a lot of politics involved unfortunately and the Wizards don't have a lot of influence (but MA Hockey does).
Last years goalies (Sidney Peters and Alexis Shaw) are quite impressive, leaving a small chance for the 96 and 97 goalies.
Yes, lots of politics are involved but neither the CT Polar Bears nor the Wizards have a strong influence. It'll be interesting to see which of the two end up having the better shot. Both are very solid.
96IllinoisDad
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Re: 2015-2016 Division I Commitments
CYA Girls final U16 league stats (FWIW): http://hphl.stats.pointstreak.com/players-division-leaders.html?divisionid=58974&seasonid=9414
FWIW (small snapshot), Bugalski's national camp stats:
Player No. Team GP W L T Min SH SV SV% GA GAA
1 Sonjia Shelly 31 Gold 4 0 0 0 91 26 24 0.923 2 1.10
2 Samantha Smith 1 Grey 4 0 0 0 90 36 34 0.944 2 1.11
3 Kerri St. Denis 31 Grey 4 0 0 0 92 31 28 0.903 3 1.63
4 Lauren Bench 31 Blue 4 0 0 0 92 34 31 0.912 3 1.63
5 Selena Hunter 1 Green 4 0 0 0 92 43 39 0.907 4 2.17
6 Kaitlin Burt 1 Black 4 0 0 0 89 45 41 0.911 4 2.25
7 Maddie Rooney 1 Gold 4 0 0 0 92 27 22 0.815 5 2.72
8 Brittany Bugalski 31 Red 4 0 0 0 92 52 46 0.885 6 3.26
9 Kiana Verplancke 1 Blue 4 0 0 0 92 33 27 0.818 6 3.26
10 Katharyn Snyder 31 Black 4 0 0 0 91 38 32 0.842 6 3.30
11 Julia Chenowith 1 Red 4 0 0 0 90 37 31 0.838 6 3.33
12 Kassi Abbott 31 Green 4 0 0 0 91 46 37 0.804 9 4.95
CYA Girls final U16 league stats (FWIW): http://hphl.stats.pointstreak.com/players-division-leaders.html?divisionid=58974&seasonid=9414
FWIW (small snapshot), Bugalski's national camp stats:
Player No. Team GP W L T Min SH SV SV% GA GAA
1 Sonjia Shelly 31 Gold 4 0 0 0 91 26 24 0.923 2 1.10
2 Samantha Smith 1 Grey 4 0 0 0 90 36 34 0.944 2 1.11
3 Kerri St. Denis 31 Grey 4 0 0 0 92 31 28 0.903 3 1.63
4 Lauren Bench 31 Blue 4 0 0 0 92 34 31 0.912 3 1.63
5 Selena Hunter 1 Green 4 0 0 0 92 43 39 0.907 4 2.17
6 Kaitlin Burt 1 Black 4 0 0 0 89 45 41 0.911 4 2.25
7 Maddie Rooney 1 Gold 4 0 0 0 92 27 22 0.815 5 2.72
8 Brittany Bugalski 31 Red 4 0 0 0 92 52 46 0.885 6 3.26
9 Kiana Verplancke 1 Blue 4 0 0 0 92 33 27 0.818 6 3.26
10 Katharyn Snyder 31 Black 4 0 0 0 91 38 32 0.842 6 3.30
11 Julia Chenowith 1 Red 4 0 0 0 90 37 31 0.838 6 3.33
12 Kassi Abbott 31 Green 4 0 0 0 91 46 37 0.804 9 4.95
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HockeyEast33
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Re: 2015-2016 Division I Commitments
League stats are interesting but really doesn't give a lot of insight. Some weak teams in that league (Compuware, Team Illinois for instance) and easy to pad stats against them (not saying they did, just saying its possible). Nat Camp stats for goalies are VERY small sample size (4 games) - if your defense gives up 1 or 2 tap in backdoor goals on penalty kills that can be the difference between being the number 1 and the number 12 goalie. Not even sure they are that indicative in the extremes. But it does represent what the evaluators saw during the camp to some extent, so that definitely matters.
League stats are interesting but really doesn't give a lot of insight. Some weak teams in that league (Compuware, Team Illinois for instance) and easy to pad stats against them (not saying they did, just saying its possible). Nat Camp stats for goalies are VERY small sample size (4 games) - if your defense gives up 1 or 2 tap in backdoor goals on penalty kills that can be the difference between being the number 1 and the number 12 goalie. Not even sure they are that indicative in the extremes. But it does represent what the evaluators saw during the camp to some extent, so that definitely matters.
Agreed. It is a very slight indicator. As Bugalski was ranked #1 her 14's year and Alexis Shaw was ranked 7th with 5 goals against this past year and made the U18 team. Although games show some sort of indication, the stats for goalies aren't very accurate with the goalies skill and performance throughout the camp with practices and goalie sessions.
96IllinoisDad
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Re: 2015-2016 Division I Commitments
For the record "FWIW" means "for what its worth"
And there are weak teams and weak players in every league incuding the PWHL, the JWHL and especially Minnesota High School hockey.
For the record "FWIW" means "for what its worth"
And there are weak teams and weak players in every league incuding the PWHL, the JWHL and especially Minnesota High School hockey.
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HockeyEast33
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Re: 2015-2016 Division I Commitments
Sorry - didn't see the FWIW.
Completely correct - all leagues have their weak teams (also includes the NE Girls League, New England Prep School, MA High School, and others)
For the record "FWIW" means "for what its worth"
And there are weak teams and weak players in every league incuding the PWHL, the JWHL and especially Minnesota High School hockey.
Sorry - didn't see the FWIW.
Completely correct - all leagues have their weak teams (also includes the NE Girls League, New England Prep School, MA High School, and others)
We see CYA a few times a year so I am not super familiar but - I do know that the forward (Crane)was a national development camp attendee and did well there - listed as a top scorer (although as covered here, just a few games). She has been a consistent top scorer in the league we play in - big and fast player. The other player Hartman seems solid too (also as said here - most people look at stats so hard to tell for defensive players). I can say CYA usually doesn't give up many goals so if that's any indicator - not a bad play either. ( I do not know if she she went to national camp - didn't see her name). CYA has several girls that appear to have made commitments.
The goalie - Bugalski is also well regarded so I guess I echo your other comments but we don't play her team so no real first hand knowledge.
Hux
Alfond to Ridder & rinks in between
Re: 2015-2016 Division I Commitments
Considered top prospects, and apparently a low pressure sales pitch vs high pressure from some other institutions was a big attraction.
Considered top prospects, and apparently a low pressure sales pitch vs high pressure from some other institutions was a big attraction.
HockeyEast33
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Re: 2015-2016 Division I Commitments
I was only looking at kids that have gone on to college already or seniors that have public commitments in reponse to the original post about prep school hockey not being challenging enough for Katie Burt at BBN (or something to that effect). There are many younger NE prep school goalies that have the potential to be fine college goalies but they haven't gotten there yet (at least not publicly).
I was only looking at kids that have gone on to college already or seniors that have public commitments in reponse to the original post about prep school hockey not being challenging enough for Katie Burt at BBN (or something to that effect). There are many younger NE prep school goalies that have the potential to be fine college goalies but they haven't gotten there yet (at least not publicly).
Ted Knight
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Re: 2015-2016 Division I Commitments
it's funny how some parents are always the last to find out about websites with their kid's info plastered all over it.I have read a few of the entries and would like to clear up some mis-information about Katie. She didn't one day wake up and pick BC. She did a lot of research on the school, academics, coaches, players and hockey program. She has grown up watching BC sports her whole life. When she got word that BC was interested (from her BBN coach) she couldn't believe it. She has been to several sporting events at BC and fell in love with the whole package. She also saw how stressed her upper classmen teammates were filling out 10 college applications hoping that their first choice would work out knowing that it probably wouldn't. Her first choice has always been BC. What would a "better" school be? Havard? Princeton? Minnesota? We as a family hear that all the time. For some people those schools are perfect. For Katie BC is perfect.
I disagree with the poster that stated that she will not be challenged enough at BBN. Picking BBN was the best choice we or she has ever made. The academics are top notch. She saw over 800 shots from teams that are packed with D1 commitments. Heck, Nobles has 5 or 6 that are on or have been on the U18 team alone. I can't think a better place than the ISL and BBN for Katie.
I just wanted to put that out there
it's funny how some parents are always the last to find out about websites with their kid's info plastered all over it.I have read a few of the entries and would like to clear up some mis-information about Katie. She didn't one day wake up and pick BC. She did a lot of research on the school, academics, coaches, players and hockey program. She has grown up watching BC sports her whole life. When she got word that BC was interested (from her BBN coach) she couldn't believe it. She has been to several sporting events at BC and fell in love with the whole package. She also saw how stressed her upper classmen teammates were filling out 10 college applications hoping that their first choice would work out knowing that it probably wouldn't. Her first choice has always been BC. What would a "better" school be? Havard? Princeton? Minnesota? We as a family hear that all the time. For some people those schools are perfect. For Katie BC is perfect.
I disagree with the poster that stated that she will not be challenged enough at BBN. Picking BBN was the best choice we or she has ever made. The academics are top notch. She saw over 800 shots from teams that are packed with D1 commitments. Heck, Nobles has 5 or 6 that are on or have been on the U18 team alone. I can't think a better place than the ISL and BBN for Katie.
I just wanted to put that out there
Re: 2015-2016 Division I Commitments
ok, ok Teddy, enough bragging. Being recruited and playing are two very different things especially for goalies.
ok, ok Teddy, enough bragging. Being recruited and playing are two very different things especially for goalies.
Ted Knight
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Re: 2015-2016 Division I Commitments
[Call It,
That was bragging? WOW. I've learned many things in the hockey world...none better than there is always someone better. Play or not play does it really matter? And why would it matter to you? are you a relative?
good luck to you
QUOTE=Call It;5658766]ok, ok Teddy, enough bragging. Being recruited and playing are two very different things especially for goalies.[/QUOTE]
[Call It,
That was bragging? WOW. I've learned many things in the hockey world...none better than there is always someone better. Play or not play does it really matter? And why would it matter to you? are you a relative?
good luck to you
QUOTE=Call It;5658766]ok, ok Teddy, enough bragging. Being recruited and playing are two very different things especially for goalies.[/QUOTE]
Back2BackU-MnPride2002
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Re: 2015-2016 Division I Commitments
For the posters that were saying it is ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS to make a choice as to where you are going to school before you are a Senior in high school?! Or did you say as a Junior was ok?!
If I would have gotten an offer from Minnesota, in my freshman year, I would have taken it, ABSOLUTELY!!!! And never regretted doing that either.
I don't care if they changed their mind on me and broke their commitment, I would just asked if I could walk on then. Or I would have gone to Comm College and worked on my game and then would have worked to get them to take me later.
UMn would have been, was and if I ever go back, would still be the right school for me.
Not saying this is the case for anyone else, but it was for me. Oh, and my nephew, would have accepted the same offer from the Gophers as a Freshman as well. He just didn't end up being good enough. But he's still a diehard Gopher fan. As was his father and mother and grandfather who grew up a Gopher fan. It's a family tradition. He would have also walked on to play for them if they had shown ANY interest.
Now not all schools have as many majors as Minnesota, or as storied a history as Minnesota, or people who grew up wanting nothing more than to play for them. But to label ALL high schoolers who make early commitments as foolish, is not right. But that's just my opinion. Maybe I'm just a stupid old timer with stupid old fashioned ideas, but I don't care.
For the posters that were saying it is ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS to make a choice as to where you are going to school before you are a Senior in high school?! Or did you say as a Junior was ok?!
If I would have gotten an offer from Minnesota, in my freshman year, I would have taken it, ABSOLUTELY!!!! And never regretted doing that either.
I don't care if they changed their mind on me and broke their commitment, I would just asked if I could walk on then. Or I would have gone to Comm College and worked on my game and then would have worked to get them to take me later.
UMn would have been, was and if I ever go back, would still be the right school for me.
Not saying this is the case for anyone else, but it was for me. Oh, and my nephew, would have accepted the same offer from the Gophers as a Freshman as well. He just didn't end up being good enough. But he's still a diehard Gopher fan. As was his father and mother and grandfather who grew up a Gopher fan. It's a family tradition. He would have also walked on to play for them if they had shown ANY interest.
Now not all schools have as many majors as Minnesota, or as storied a history as Minnesota, or people who grew up wanting nothing more than to play for them. But to label ALL high schoolers who make early commitments as foolish, is not right. But that's just my opinion. Maybe I'm just a stupid old timer with stupid old fashioned ideas, but I don't care.
Re: 2015-2016 Division I Commitments
It's not just the parents; admissions officers are also curious and somewhat disturbed to read about kids who are all but signed, sealed and delivered to a particular school. I know because I do some admissions work for Harvard and I can tell you first hand that some of what is written here doesn't sit well with the Committee. It's fine to speculate on where a kid may or may not go but until the letter (or email really) of admit goes out, to say that a recruit is bound for Harvard, BC or Minnesota before they are actually admitted is premature at best and at worst, highly misleading and can affect someone's path to college. Just sayin'.
It's not just the parents; admissions officers are also curious and somewhat disturbed to read about kids who are all but signed, sealed and delivered to a particular school. I know because I do some admissions work for Harvard and I can tell you first hand that some of what is written here doesn't sit well with the Committee. It's fine to speculate on where a kid may or may not go but until the letter (or email really) of admit goes out, to say that a recruit is bound for Harvard, BC or Minnesota before they are actually admitted is premature at best and at worst, highly misleading and can affect someone's path to college. Just sayin'.
Hux
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Re: 2015-2016 Division I Commitments
Seriously? We all know that a "commitment" is not much different than an animal peeing on a tree. It is marking territory ( a roster spot) for both the student-athlete and the coaching staff. We know it ultimately comes down to getting through Clearing House, admission to the institution, and signing an NLI before it is cast in stone.
I think the reaction you cite says more about the committee, than it does about the process of announcing a commitment. They need to not have their panties in a bunch and get over it. It is part of the collegiate athletics landscape.
Seriously? We all know that a "commitment" is not much different than an animal peeing on a tree. It is marking territory ( a roster spot) for both the student-athlete and the coaching staff. We know it ultimately comes down to getting through Clearing House, admission to the institution, and signing an NLI before it is cast in stone.
I think the reaction you cite says more about the committee, than it does about the process of announcing a commitment. They need to not have their panties in a bunch and get over it. It is part of the collegiate athletics landscape.