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2014 Open Wheel Racing - if it's white smoke, it's not a good sign & that's no bull!!

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Re: 2014 Open Wheel Racing - if it's white smoke, it's not a good sign & that's no bu

Russell Jaslow said:
No surprise. Let's see if something comes of it.

Though to be honest, I don't see Rossi doing much in F1. It's not like he's been wowing anyone in Formula Renault or GP2.
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I agree. Before this season, I had thought that Rossi had F1 caliber talent. Now, I'm not so sure. Granted Caterham GP2 isn't a top level team, but still I expected more out of him. At least a podium or two.



alfablue said:
At least Gene would get some interest in the US with a US car and US driver. Most of us don't expect anything for a couple of seasons.

on the other hand, it would be great if Rossi was one of those guys who ordinary in the lower series, and brilliant in F1.
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I hope you are correct. I think he is quick (he qualifies fairly well) but I also think he is prone to making a mistake or two and that leads him to either get wrapped up in a crash or he just can't make enough overtakes to get to the front.
 
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Re: 2014 Open Wheel Racing - if it's white smoke, it's not a good sign & that's no bu

good news for Rossi but I wonder whether Conor Daly shouldn't be the one getting that ride...although considering the $ involved, even if Haas sticks it out there's no way he's competitive until about 2017 at the earliest.

Re: Tony Stewart. I just re-watched that video and I'm beginning to think it's possible Tony tried to avoid him in that when he's right on the kid or the kid was by or just past the front right tire Tony seems to gun it and turn the car right which moves the rear of the car left (assuming Tony was intentionally moving the rear of the car to the left)...does anyone else see that?
 
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Re: 2014 Open Wheel Racing - if it's white smoke, it's not a good sign & that's no bu

Russell Jaslow said:
NASCAR HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS, SO THEY CAN NOT BE SUED!!!!!!!!!

Good heavens. I love how everybody comes out of the woodwork when something like this happens and think they are suddenly experts of racing. And of course, these so called "experts" just know that NASCAR is racing and if anything happens in racing, it must be NASCAR.

I hate to break it to you, but NASCAR, no matter how popular it is, is just one small segment of the huge sport that auto racing is. And it's nothing on the worldwide scene. Heck, more people in Finland watch Formula 1 than NASCAR ever gets for TV ratings.

It would be as if a dual athlete did something stupid in the NFL, and people say, "Oh my, MLB is going to get sued." NASCAR has nothing to do with what happened in Canandaigua.

Now, as for Tony Stewart himself getting sued, no doubt that will happen. And he will settle it faster than they can file it to make sure nothing comes out in a public court.
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Settle down, Beavis. That's not what he said.
 
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He's on a roll!
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
He's on a roll!
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That's right, I'm on a roll. :p

I needed some quote to set me off. Whether dxmnkd316 was making a statement on our legal system or not, didn't matter to me. There were some comments on here that were making me go nutty, and I picked the one I did, appropriate or not, to start my rant.

BTW, si.com has a good article on all the legal ramifications Stewart could be facing.
 
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MattS said:
I agree. Before this season, I had thought that Rossi had F1 caliber talent. Now, I'm not so sure. Granted Caterham GP2 isn't a top level team, but still I expected more out of him. At least a podium or two.
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Caterham GP2 is a separate entity from the F1 team. The GP2 team has had some decent showings over the years.

But the key is the old adage, the first person you have to beat is your teammate. Rossi just hasn't done that in FRenault and GP2.

I also wonder if Conor Daly is more talented, but then he hasn't done much in GP2 this year after a quite decent effort in GP3 last year.
 
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Russell Jaslow said:
Caterham GP2 is a separate entity from the F1 team. The GP2 team has had some decent showings over the years.

But the key is the old adage, the first person you have to beat is your teammate. Rossi just hasn't done that in FRenault and GP2.

I also wonder if Conor Daly is more talented, but then he hasn't done much in GP2 this year after a quite decent effort in GP3 last year.
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I know they are two different teams but that doesn't mean Caterham GP2 team is very good. I wouldn't call 4 wins in 4 years good. Especially when compared to DAMS or ART. I thought Rossi had progressed nicely until this season. He had a very good run in FR3.5 in 2011 but after than he has fallen some but I again, think part of that is because of his involvement with Caterham.

I think Rossi is the better driver for European style racing compared to Daly but I think Daly is the better diverse driver. I wouldn't write Daly off until he gets another season (hopefully) of GP2. Except for the special talents like say Hamilton I believe it takes a year after jumping up a class to become proficient.
 
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MattS said:
I know they are two different teams but that doesn't mean Caterham GP2 team is very good. I wouldn't call 4 wins in 4 years good. Especially when compared to DAMS or ART. I thought Rossi had progressed nicely until this season. He had a very good run in FR3.5 in 2011 but after than he has fallen some but I again, think part of that is because of his involvement with Caterham.
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Four wins versus ZERO points is a huge difference. LOL

But seriously, Caterham might not be a DAMS or ART, but they are capable of winning. Heck, Rossi did so last year. But, Rossi still should be doing better if he is a true F1 talent.

I think Rossi is the better driver for European style racing compared to Daly but I think Daly is the better diverse driver. I wouldn't write Daly off until he gets another season (hopefully) of GP2. Except for the special talents like say Hamilton I believe it takes a year after jumping up a class to become proficient.
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I agree.
 
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Russell Jaslow said:
Four wins versus ZERO points is a huge difference. LOL

But seriously, Caterham might not be a DAMS or ART, but they are capable of winning. Heck, Rossi did so last year. But, Rossi still should be doing better if he is a true F1 talent.
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Agreed. He should have been doing better this season. At a minimum beating his teammate.

I still believe that Rossi has the speed and quickness to be a good driver. A WDC, well no, but a proficient F1 driver's speed and quickness is there. However, his issue is with traffic and mistakes. From what I have watched he needs to learn to pick his spots better and to not use up his tyres too quickly especially when trying to make a poorly advised overtake.
 
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NASCAR: participants are stupid enough that we have to create a rule stating: Don't walk around the track during a race.
 
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Timothy A said:
The bigger ? is what will the penalty be for not following the procedure? We all know someone will lose their cool.
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It will be a slap on th wrist. NASCAR is more concerned with ratings and the soap opera drama than with driver safety.
 
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I can't wait for sunday at the Mile! I met Michael Andretti, Zach Veach, James Hinchcliffe, Josef Newgarden and Matthew Brabham tonight. All were very cool (well, maybe Hinch was more aloof than the others)...David Hobbs came across as a total knob, he didn't have time for anyone despite being at a table where he was ostensibly there to sign autographs. One guy brought INDY 500 qualifying photo's of Hobbs and DH just took the book and started talking to Newgarden while the fan was hoping for maybe a bit of conversation...anyway fun nonetheless
 
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Re: 2014 Open Wheel Racing - if it's white smoke, it's not a good sign & that's no bu

Great day at the Mile today. I really thought Matthew Brabham would take his 2nd Indy Lights win but lost out on the final restart. Brabham really is a star in the making, won USF2000 and Pro Mazda titles and it appears he's heading in the right direction in Indy Lights now. One more season of lights and I hope Andretti calls him to the big cars.

The future of Indycar could really be: Josef Newgarden, Sage Karem, Matthew Brabham, Conor Daly, Carlos Munoz.

As for the ABCSupply 250...man I can't stand Will Power so to see him win ****es me off to no end. Especially when Castroneves had a lackluster day along w/Pagenaud (yeah, yeah 7th)

Newgarden in 5th for Sarah Fisher. I mean, this kid is outdriving his equipment there's no doubt about it.

Also...*** w/Montoya hitting a tire in the pits and not getting a penalty? I'm a JPM fan and want him to win but if Newgarden suffers a drivethrough at Mid-Ohio for his pit crews error (he ran over the hose left out by his slothful pitcrew) then Montoya deserved one for his own error. He's **** lucky that tire didn't bound into the neighboring pit stall
 
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Re: 2014 Open Wheel Racing - if it's white smoke, it's not a good sign & that's no bu

I was going to complain that the race wasn't that exciting, but I quickly understood how wrong I am. Of all the ovals, Milwakee is more of a road coarse that goes around over a mile. So seeing the cars spread out like that is quite natural. It also results in cars that can change a lot over a run, and more importantly over the race as the teams mess with them.

Power/Penske did a great job keeping the car out in front. The one time he was behind Kaanan was more a strategy issue (which I thought was curious, being that yellows are more likely than not) where Power stayed out long so that he only had one more stop, which lost a lot of time To Kaanan. In the end, the TCG team did not give Tony a car that he could race with at the end- which kinda sucked. He should have been able to carve up at least to Power, but couldn't even close any gaps.

That track is obviously really hard to get right.

Newgarden- great drive. I heard that Fisher and Carpenter are teaming to make a two car team, which should help a lot. But Josef has not resigned. Wondering who he thinks may try to get him on their team other than the Fisher/Carpenter team.

It WAS a good race. The bonehead moves have really gone down, it seems. Mostly quite clean. Felt bad for RHR, so rare to see a car break when not hitting something. Start in the back, get into the top of the race, and then break? Ugh.
 
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Spa week.

You do not lift at Eau Rouge.
 
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