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2014 Open Wheel Racing - if it's white smoke, it's not a good sign & that's no bull!!

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Re: 2014 Open Wheel Racing - if it's white smoke, it's not a good sign & that's no bu

Hamilton Dominated tonight:) woot!

Vettel...Ricciardo over 20 seconds ahead of him? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Screw Vettel.

Nice race for Alonso as well.
 
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Re: 2014 Open Wheel Racing - if it's white smoke, it's not a good sign & that's no bu

Mecredes looks like RB of the past few years. Hamilton with a very good and controlled race. Rosberg with a very good and old fashioned race. Taking a hit on the opening corner and no telemetry for the race. Well done.

Alonso showing why he is one of the top 2-3 drivers in the field. Again taking a dog and making it look good.

I can't help but wonder if Ferrari is thinking they made a mistake with Kimi. Massa is showing better form in the Williams. :)

And Riccardo beating golden boy. Ha! I wonder how he likes it now that he's getting the "let him by" treatment. Hm...
 
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MattS said:
I can't help but wonder if Ferrari is thinking they made a mistake with Kimi. Massa is showing better form in the Williams. :)
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They should have kept Massa or hired Hulkenburg. Kimi's hiring was all PR. Ferd and Kimi are both on the same starting point with the engines and chassises being entirely new designs, so the fact Ferd is crushing Kimi like this is not good.

I don't like it period when teamates are told to move over and let the other by, whether it's Massa, Vettel or whoever. If you are faster, pass them. With the DRS it should be easy between teamates because the car behind has a huge advantage.
 
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Re: 2014 Open Wheel Racing - if it's white smoke, it's not a good sign & that's no bu

I read today that RB says Vettel's problems are because he is "damaging the tire" more than the average. Que Pirelli changing the tire spec in 3...2....1..... :D
 
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MattS said:
I read today that RB says Vettel's problems are because he is "damaging the tire" more than the average. Que Pirelli changing the tire spec in 3...2....1..... :D
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I read that also. The article I read also pointed out this happened in 2013 and when the tire changed midyear, Red Bull became dominant. But, this year, that won't happen. Which means you'll see RB take the whining world championship away from Ferrari this year...
 
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My public service announcement for the week.....

If any of you are Dave Despain fans, he has a new show (The Dave Despain Show) starting up on MAVTV. First episode is on Saturday (25th) at 8 pm. The first episode is a half hour interview with John Force. That is all the info I know.
 
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For anyone that is interested tonight, sunday, the movie Senna is being replayed on velocity
 
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The Indycar race was a decent watch. Once it dried out, the positions stabilized, but the wet and drying out periods were entertaining. My Penske boys better get their heads out of their butts; way too many unforced errors. Power will never win the championship. He just makes too many mistakes. I like Helio alot, but at some point his abilities are going to be too eroded to compete for the top spot, same with Montoya. Penske needs to go younger overall with the drivers.
 
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Ayrton Senna 20th anniversary of his passing...
it's interesting to see some of the sports writers now making statements about Ayrton Senna to the effect he wasn't the greatest driver of all-time because he was too ruthless (i.e. he was willing to risk crashing to win a championship etc)

Jackie Stewart is in this camp (he's such a knob). Senna's blinding speed (65 pole positions etc) and the fact that he won 40% of his races at McLaren seem to be a secondary factor for these guys.

I LOVED the fact Senna would do whatever it took to win. For a while it seemed Michael Andretti drove the same way. Montoya drove that way initially in Indycar. Those are the types of drivers I respect and admire...those gathering points guys like Prost just never did for me...

anyway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwLEE420v20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhHVkfLJ3pg
 
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Pfft, watch the Top Gear piece on Senna with all the drivers, including Schumacher, saying Senna is the best.
 
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Indycar is looking at a race in LA, the state that is. Hopefully RA can get some $ and get onto the schedule.
 
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Timothy A said:
Indycar is looking at a race in LA, the state that is. Hopefully RA can get some $ and get onto the schedule.
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Road America has a Nationwide race. They don't need Indycar...

BTW, I'll be there next week for the vintage event. Come on out. I'm driving the pace car. Introduce yourself.
 
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Indy car, I really want to like you. I have been watching since the 70s.

This racing is terrible. There may be some talent out there, but the remainders are why so few watch and so few invest. Why so sloppy?
 
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what an atrocious race today at Indy. First 2 guys stall or eff up the start, I mean c'mon! Then there's this from racer.com "An incident-filled race was watched by a respectable crowd of approximately 21,700 fans."

21,700 is respectable? it was a ghost-town out there! How the hell is that not considered an abysmal failure?

I love Indycar racing and desperately hope for it to succeed but I just don't see how it can make a come back in the current sports climate (... and incidents aside, I mean taxicar has accidents every 15 seconds it seems and their fans don't seem to mind it, so I don't buy that as a reason for a lack of interest)
 
solovsfett said:
what an atrocious race today at Indy. First 2 guys stall or eff up the start, I mean c'mon! Then there's this from racer.com "An incident-filled race was watched by a respectable crowd of approximately 21,700 fans."

21,700 is respectable? it was a ghost-town out there! How the hell is that not considered an abysmal failure?

I love Indycar racing and desperately hope for it to succeed but I just don't see how it can make a come back in the current sports climate (... and incidents aside, I mean taxicar has accidents every 15 seconds it seems and their fans don't seem to mind it, so I don't buy that as a reason for a lack of interest)
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Lingerie Racing League?
 
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solovsfett said:
what an atrocious race today at Indy. First 2 guys stall or eff up the start, I mean c'mon! Then there's this from racer.com "An incident-filled race was watched by a respectable crowd of approximately 21,700 fans."

21,700 is respectable? it was a ghost-town out there! How the hell is that not considered an abysmal failure?

I love Indycar racing and desperately hope for it to succeed but I just don't see how it can make a come back in the current sports climate (... and incidents aside, I mean taxicar has accidents every 15 seconds it seems and their fans don't seem to mind it, so I don't buy that as a reason for a lack of interest)
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I think it has a lot to do with it. NASCAR fans and open wheel fans are different people. I watch for the racing- the fact that a driver can dominate a race, then to have a pair of experienced drivers not being able to play pattycakes together causing a yellow that lasted forever- which then caused that driver to be an also ran way far back like that... well, that's not fun to watch. Then add in all of the terrible starts after that- so many yellows means that there are other things that are better to do.

Between the odd rules for restarts, and the exact same reactions that NASCAR does- one yellow begats more- don't copy the cup cars. Bad idea.

Not fun to watch.
 
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I thought The Spanish GP was a little dull. Mercedes has turn into the RB of the last two seasons with the exception that the Nico can actually race against Hamilton. As much as I really, really, really, hate to admit it - Vettel had a excellent drive today. He really showed his talent today. (now I am going to go be sick). ;) Kimi getting lapped today....uh oh.....


Re Indycar: I stopped watching Indycar mid way though last season. Just because the cars are close together does not mean the racing is good. Someone should explain this to that blowhard Robin Miller. Anyway, I just can't spend my precious time watching a mickey mouse series. If it isn't dumb things being done by the drivers then it is stupid decisions by the series that make it unwatchable for me. Don't get me started about the actual television broadcasts. Add it all up and I'm just not interested anymore. It reminds me of when I quit watching NASCAR. Spec cars with too many gimmicks with too much emphasis on wrecks.

Right now I watch F1, NHRA, sportscars and when I can catch the broadcasts WRC.
 
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Call me crazy, but I didn't think the Indy race was that bad. The standing start's outcome was unfortunate, but I've seen enough of F1 to have seen that same thing happen in that series. The end actually got interesting with Helio trying to catch 1st and 2nd on full rich and new tyres, though it was obvious he was a couple laps short of making it REAL interesting. I would agree overall there are too many driver mistakes, but they changed the contact rules this year so we'll be seeing more of that as they try and stick their noses in where they don't belong. I didn't pay too much attention to the broadcasters themselves, but from what I did hear (I was cooking at that time), it was not good, Cheever and Goodyear are no good. I thought 21,000 wasn't bad for attendance (I was hoping for 10,000, when this was announced it was nearly universally hated) I was not expecting the stands to be full or anything. I was a CART fan before an F1 fan, so I'm still interested in the series.
 
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Being a huge Rick Mears fan, I love Helio's Pennziol tribute paint job for the 500. I just can't stop staring at that beautiful car. That's another reason I'm remaining an Indy car fan...the 500. I did boycott when TG split the series, but we're all good now. Once Penske gets out, I may get out as well, but with Penske in the series I am interested.
 
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