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2012 Presidential Election - The Day after the Aftermath...

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And what makes you unable to take advantage of the same thing as someone else?

Hedge funds and off shore tax shelters don't let you open up accounts with a hundred bucks Flaggy.

PS - Please keep up the act! While Scooby may be getting upset when you act stupid, I happen to think your ability to do so is so good that you're becoming the chararcter you seek to play. My only hope is that you're somehow getting paid for this. :D
 
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No, but it brought a tear to my eye! ;)

Its funny how a party that wanted to bring up the Reagan vs Carter election in 1980 as the model for how the 2012 election would play out now no longer wants to talk about Ronbo. What gives?

I'm sure the Repubs are still eager to talk more about Reagan. I was speaking of my own perspective.
 
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I am also fairly certain that when he was working he didn't spend the entire working day on a chat board *****ing about people who made more money than he did.
Maybe if you applied your rich anger in a more constructive manner you'd become what you hate :p

Again for the 1 millionth time. I don't give a **** how much he makes and I don't give a **** how much I make. I give a **** that the ****ING TAX SYSTEM IN THIS COUNTRY IS ****ED UP AND SKEWED TO PEOPLE WHO WHINE MORE ABOUT IT THAN I DO. Exhibit A Grover ****ING Norquist.

And what makes you unable to take advantage of the same thing as someone else?

I'm done. This is my last post ever on this board about taxes.
VERY well done, guys. Even I'm in awe. I don't think I ever pulled that many asterisk's out of someone in a single dive off the deep end.
 
Hedge funds and off shore tax shelters don't let you open up accounts with a hundred bucks Flaggy.

PS - Please keep up the act! While Scooby may be getting upset when you act stupid, I happen to think your ability to do so is so good that you're becoming the chararcter you seek to play. My only hope is that you're somehow getting paid for this. :D

How about working like Mitt did to get the money to jet overseas and leave some money bags behind? :) :p
 
How about working like Mitt did to get the money to jet overseas and leave some money bags behind? :) :p

Hey, I would have LOVED to have been the first born son of a millionaire and a prominent public official instead of being the second born son of a lazy drunk. But, we all play with the cards we're dealt with. ;)
 
Hey, I would have LOVED to have been the first born son of a millionaire and a prominent public official instead of being the second born son of a lazy drunk. But, we all play with the cards we're dealt with. ;)

Yes we do. And mitt took what he was given and ran with it. But let's not go and say that every wealth person today had it given to him (ahem, Kennedy clan) and turned it over 100 fold. Sure, mitts dad had money, then left that to go into public service (instead of it being a life career- ahem, Kennedy clan). Yet he is the face of ridicule and resentment. Whatever.
 
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Hey, I would have LOVED to have been the first born son of a millionaire and a prominent public official instead of being the second born son of a lazy drunk. But, we all play with the cards we're dealt with. ;)

It's more about what you do with the cards than what the cards are. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Hilton family end up in the dust from Paris being a stupid spoiled whore.
 
Yes we do. And mitt took what he was given and ran with it. But let's not go and say that every wealth person today had it given to him (ahem, Kennedy clan) and turned it over 100 fold. Sure, mitts dad had money, then left that to go into public service (instead of it being a life career- ahem, Kennedy clan). Yet he is the face of ridicule and resentment. Whatever.

Oh please. Look Mittens is a smart man, far more than myself obviously, and would have been successful had he been born further down the economic ladder. However, to say he would have become a multimillionare hedge fund founder and Presidential nominee had he been brought up poor in a one parent family in a trailer park defies logic. If you want to worship a self made person, try Barack Obama who was born a lot further behind Romney's starting line and achieved more than him (the Presidency) in less time (Obama elected at age 47 maybe, Mittens lost race at age 65) and did it all without being able to rely on family connections.

That's why I never get why people who don't have a pot to p ! ss in relatively speaking are so concerned about lowering the tax rate of Paris Hilton, Mitt Romney and George W Bush. Sure, Romney earned his money but really, how sorry are we to feel for these people that they have to cough up a little more?
 
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It's more about what you do with the cards than what the cards are. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Hilton family end up in the dust from Paris being a stupid spoiled whore.
Nice example, but that doesn't hold true as a rule. The #1 predictor of future wealth for any child born in the USA is not race, not sex, not height, not geography, not intelligence, not hair color, not eye color, not beauty... it's the wealth of your parents. Sorry, but though some manage to play their 7-2 off suit with amazing success, the folks dealt a pair of aces will win more regularly.
 
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Funny, but I for one don't think of being president to be much of an accomplishment :)
 
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Nice example, but that doesn't hold true as a rule. The #1 predictor of future wealth for any child born in the USA is not race, not sex, not height, not geography, not intelligence, not hair color, not eye color, not beauty... it's the wealth of your parents. Sorry, but though some manage to play their 7-2 off suit with amazing success, the folks dealt a pair of aces will win more regularly.

I think you're trying to refute my point by stating exactly what I just said. It's less about wealth, though, and more about opportunity. Take Ron Popeil for example. As a teenager (that or thereabout), his father only gave him a job to sell things on the street in Chicago. No extra money or anything like that; he earned his keep. Look what he turned it into: an infomercial empire. How about Steve Jobs, who took opportunity and determination to create his technology empire? And how about Robert Herjavec? When his family immigrated, they had next to nothing. Sure, a little cash might help, but it's much more about discovering an opportunity and taking advantage of it.
 
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You won't be thinking that when I become President and immediately assign you to the nearest gulag!

If you became President, after about two months, you'd be wishing you had me as an economic advisor (possibly Secretary of the Treasury) and didn't throw me in Gitmo. Unless, of course, your goal is to ruin the country. ;)
 
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I think you're trying to refute my point by stating exactly what I just said. It's less about wealth, though, and more about opportunity. Take Ron Popeil for example. As a teenager (that or thereabout), his father only gave him a job to sell things on the street in Chicago. No extra money or anything like that; he earned his keep. Look what he turned it into: an infomercial empire. How about Steve Jobs, who took opportunity and determination to create his technology empire? And how about Robert Herjavec? When his family immigrated, they had next to nothing. Sure, a little cash might help, but it's much more about discovering an opportunity and taking advantage of it.
So you agree with me that those born into wealth are born into more opportunity?
 
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So you agree with me that those born into wealth are born into more opportunity?

No, I don't. They aren't perfectly dependent, but they aren't mutually exclusive, either. You still have to seek the correct avenues in order to progress. That's where opportunity comes into play. Sure, the road along the opportunity could be made easier with some capital, but you have to find the road first.
 
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No, I don't. They aren't perfectly dependent, but they aren't mutually exclusive, either. You still have to seek the correct avenues in order to progress. That's where opportunity comes into play. Sure, the road along the opportunity could be made easier with some capital, but you have to find the road first.

Tell that to the little girl who didn't graduate High School because her mom's a crack whore. Tell her that she started out with the same slate as Mittens. Then get back to us.
 
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