2012 Presidential Election - The Day after the Aftermath...

[FlagDUDE08]

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You realize the D has won 4 of the last six? Forget Reagan. D has had power and done ka ka. But keep blaming Ronnie

Not to mention, wasn't it the tax cuts of 1995, proposed by Newt Gingrich, that resulted in the country getting to a budget surplus?

 

[walrus]

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Yeah, that'll happen. We just had the conservatives complain about paying the social security tax in the other thread. I guess they're incapable of figuring out that AGAIN I pay a higher percentage of my income to Social Security than someone making 250,000 or more. Or, even the 115 number you used.

So, the more likely solution is to increase the percentage on the 115 and below. We can't charge the folks making more than that because those folks create jobs.

Don't you stop paying at 115,000? I'm self employed so I pay all of mine no split with my employer.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Not to mention, wasn't it the tax cuts of 1995, proposed by Newt Gingrich, that resulted in the country getting to a budget surplus?

And here is comedy central back for another run.

The answer to your question is NO.

 

[mookie1995]

No, but it brought a tear to my eye!

Its funny how a party that wanted to bring up the Reagan vs Carter election in 1980 as the model for how the 2012 election would play out now no longer wants to talk about Ronbo. What gives?

I'm just sayin stop crying because something he did 30 ****ing years ago is somehow the fault when y'all have had the majority of the time to fix it in the past 20yrs! geez

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Don't you stop paying at 115,000? I'm self employed so I pay all of mine no split with my employer.

Yes, you stop paying at 115. Which means the more you make the lower the percentage of your total income that is paid in Social Security taxes.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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No, but it brought a tear to my eye!

Its funny how a party that wanted to bring up the Reagan vs Carter election in 1980 as the model for how the 2012 election would play out now no longer wants to talk about Ronbo. What gives?

It's because the GOP didn't do what they did in 1980. They went for someone they thought was electable. Turns out he wasn't.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Yes, you stop paying at 115. Which means the more you make the lower the percentage of your total income that is paid in Social Security taxes.

Yes, but a person making $115,000 gets the same benefits as someone who makes $1,150,000. That's why it stops at 115.

 

[mookie1995]

Yeah, that'll happen. We just had the conservatives complain about paying the social security tax in the other thread. I guess they're incapable of figuring out that AGAIN I pay a higher percentage of my income to Social Security than someone making 250,000 or more. Or, even the 115 number you used.

So, the more likely solution is to increase the percentage on the 115 and below. We can't charge the folks making more than that because those folks create jobs.

% don't pay bills. $ do.

This whining about % is rather funny

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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% don't pay bills. $ do.

This whining about % is rather funny

Now you know why I typed a few months ago that the way to confuse a left-winger is to use a number of 101 or higher. You can't make a percentage.

 

[mookie1995]

Yes, you stop paying at 115. Which means the more you make the lower the percentage of your total income that is paid in Social Security taxes.

zzzzzzzzz

 

[Rover]

I'm just sayin stop crying because something he did 30 ****ing years ago is somehow the fault when y'all have had the majority of the time to fix it in the past 20yrs! geez

Hey, I like the old boy a lot better than most of my fellow lefties! On this particular subject, Bass is right to a point. IIRC correctly I do believe Reagan led the charge to deinstitutionalize people. That coincided with the spike in homelessness during his term as many are in fact mentally ill. My problem however isn't with Reagan as he was experimenting with something that in the end didn't end up working out, much like tax cuts for the rich don't actually stimulate the economy. This happens with every President and after Jan of 1989 it was out of his hands.

My problem is with the current GOP that refuses to correct anything that their ideological ancestors advocated 30 years ago. It is a group of people for whatever reason is stuck in 1982 policy. Want proof? What did GWB run on? Massive tax cuts for the rich and defense spending builup. What did Mittens run on? Massive tax cuts for the rich and a 2T defense buildup.

Mookie, how can we miss the Reagan era when the GOP won't let it go away!

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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% don't pay bills. $ do.

This whining about % is rather funny

Romney's got lots of money. Ask for more of his to pay the ****ing bill. I and people like me don't have any more to give.

Oh, and if that's unacceptable than just shut down Social Security and Medicare now and be done with it. I don't want the **** anyway.

 

[mookie1995]

Mookie, how can we miss the Reagan era when the GOP won't let it go away!

But they ain't in charge! Get something done. Y'all are acting like tip oneil didn't vote for a tax cut

 

[mookie1995]

Romney's got lots of money. Ask for more of his to pay the ****ing bill. I and people like me don't have any more to give.

Oh, and if that's unacceptable than just shut down Social Security and Medicare now and be done with it. I don't want the **** anyway.

Then tell BHO to stop taxing income and tax wealth.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Then tell BHO to stop taxing income and tax wealth.

No.

Taxing income is fine. Taxing income differently depending on how it's earned is wrong. In this country labor is vilified and capital is revered. Change that and you might fix the problem.

 

[mookie1995]

No.

Taxing income is fine. Taxing income differently depending on how it's earned is wrong. In this country labor is vilified and capital is revered. Change that and you might fix the problem.

Captain gains come from taking income earned (after tax) an investing. It's already been taxed once

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Captain gains come from taking income earned (after tax) an investing. It's already been taxed once

Actually, capital gains comes from the difference in appreciation of the value of an asset. Dividends, on the other hand...

 

[mookie1995]

Actually, capital gains comes from the difference in appreciation of the value of an asset. Dividends, on the other hand...

Oh. And are those assets given away for free? Are they on the sidewalk

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Oh. And are those assets given away for free? Are they on the sidewalk

What are you talking about given away for free? You deduct the value that you paid in order to gain the asset.

 

[Rover]

But they ain't in charge! Get something done. Y'all are acting like tip oneil didn't vote for a tax cut

plans are already in place Mookster. Country goes off fiscal cliff, taxes go back to Clinton rates and defense spending gets slashed. Then the O picks and chooses which rates he wants to lower and horse trades a little on spending cuts. The choice for our walking-upright-challenged friends on the right is simple. Either make a deal now and accept tax hikes on the rich, or do nothing and get blamed for tax hikes on everyone.

On guns yeah I'd like to see something done.