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2012 Presidential Election - The Day after the Aftermath...

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burd said:
Is that the Jesus with the long straight brown hair, high nordic cheekbones, blue eyes, and california tan whose picture hangs in every church basement in the country?
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Sad isn't it when Jesus was a blonde.
 
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DrDemento said:
And the one who would be lighting the first candle to celebrate the first night of Chanukah tonight?
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For the win :)

You guys better stop it though or certain people will come around and preach about the WAR ON CHRISTMAS!! I find it hrd to hear them though over the cChristmas songs playing on my radio since before Thanksgiving :p
 
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Handyman said:
For the win :)

You guys better stop it though or certain people will come around and preach about the WAR ON CHRISTMAS!! I find it hrd to hear them though over the cChristmas songs playing on my radio since before Thanksgiving :p
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Perhaps it's time for all of us to enjoy a non-Santa and non-Jesus Christmas song...

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Subscribed because I'm back you political harpies.
 
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Working too much. Plus for the last month or two when I get home, I just haven't turned my laptop on with any frequency until the last week or so.

No election parties.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Working too much. Plus for the last month or two when I get home, I just haven't turned my laptop on with any frequency until the last week or so.

No election parties.
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I haven't seen Bob Gray on here for a while; thought maybe he went the other extreme mentioned on that one South Park episode. :eek:
 
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hahaha. I suppose the liberals threatened to do that when Bush was reelected. But then again, the Republicans actually have jobs and could afford to do it. :D
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
hahaha. I suppose the liberals threatened to do that when Bush was reelected. But then again, the Republicans actually have jobs and could afford to do it. :D
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You mean to tell me it costs money? In New York State, jumping off a building gets you it automatically.
 
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Well how about that!

President Obama discovers that the Bush tax cuts were a good thing for the middle class!

He's out campaigning that they be extended.


Only 9 years later and finally the MSM is realizing that the Bush tax cuts were actually good for everyone. Gee.
 
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FreshFish said:
Well how about that!

President Obama discovers that the Bush tax cuts were a good thing for the middle class!

He's out campaigning that they be extended.


Only 9 years later and finally the MSM is realizing that the Bush tax cuts were actually good for everyone. Gee.
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He still isn't budging on his over 250k.
 
FreshFish said:
.Only 9 years later and finally the MSM is realizing that the Bush tax cuts were actually good for everyone. Gee.
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They weren't good for the national debt. They also should be allowed to expire for everyone once the unemployment rate is back below 6.5%. In this case, the only reason not to let them all expire at once is because you don't want to shock an already fragile economy.

But keep on repeating gop talking points, Mr. Fark Independent (tm).
 
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unofan said:
They weren't good for the national debt. They also should be allowed to expire for everyone once the unemployment rate is back below 6.5%. In this case, the only reason not to let them all expire at once is because you don't want to shock an already fragile economy.

But keep on repeating gop talking points, Mr. Fark Independent (tm).
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If unemployment were below 6.5%, you'd find that more money is coming in as it is. Low unemployment means more wages. More wages means more money in the form of taxes. You could put the taxation rate on that gap at 1%, and you'd find that the money coming in is still higher than the 0 you're currently getting from that gap now. In fact, it'd be more than that, because they would then be ineligible for the full amount of welfare handouts. It's not talking points, it's simple math. I know you were told there would be no math, but ask a MTU grad if you really don't understand. Once again, though, you're making an assumption that if you raise taxes, the amount that is spent by those being taxed (and therefore commercial earnings and the like) will remain the same. There's no guarantee of that happening. Always account for variable change.
 
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unofan said:
They weren't good for the national debt.
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you are so immune to data! how can you reside so strongly in denial, are you Egyptian?

Tax revenues increased. Spending increased even more. You cannot blame an increased national debt on increased tax revenues. The math just doesn't work that way.
 
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Only people who think unfunded Bush tax cuts are a good idea are either 1)Idiots, or 2) sexually attracted to Larry Kudlow. I'll let anybody advocating this lunacy tell us which category they fall in.

While some desperate for any good news knuckledraggers may try to harp on the O keeping rates lower for most taxpayers, that's going hand in hand with other reductions to help cut deficit spending. If only the hero of most conservatives, GWB, would have had that thought.
 
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If unemployment were below 6.5%, you'd find that more money is coming in as it is. Low unemployment means more wages. More wages means more money in the form of taxes. You could put the taxation rate on that gap at 1%, and you'd find that the money coming in is still higher than the 0 you're currently getting from that gap now. In fact, it'd be more than that, because they would then be ineligible for the full amount of welfare handouts. It's not talking points, it's simple math. I know you were told there would be no math, but ask a MTU grad if you really don't understand. Once again, though, you're making an assumption that if you raise taxes, the amount that is spent by those being taxed (and therefore commercial earnings and the like) will remain the same. There's no guarantee of that happening. Always account for variable change.
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I may not be an engineer, but my degree required plenty of math. I do have some understanding on this particular topic, as well.
 
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BassAle said:
I believe that Dr. George Coyne, S.J. (former director of the Vatican Observatory) basically says that at least everything from the big bang until now is explained by science, that intelligent design isn't science and shouldn't be taught as such, and that we are a result of a lot of chance encounters
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coupled with faulty truck stop condoms, in at least a couple of instances.
 
FreshFish said:
you are so immune to data! how can you reside so strongly in denial, are you Egyptian?

Tax revenues increased. Spending increased even more. You cannot blame an increased national debt on increased tax revenues. The math just doesn't work that way.
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Of course revenues rose. Inflation + using 2003 as your base year will make any policy change look amazing. The tax cuts even were good policy as a short term stimulus. But they are not some magic golden egg providing long term growth for federal revenues. Unless you believe we're to the right of the apex of the laffer curve despite plenty of evidence that we are not, then lowering tax rates will not raise revenue.
 
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