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2012 Presidential Election - The Day after the Aftermath...
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Re: 2012 Presidential Election - The Day after the Aftermath...
Barack of Benghazi or GOPsmacked. Either one works.
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Therefore I blame Kepler (where is he by the way?).
It was my thread and I did not hit the delete thread button (unless some arcane Android app thingy deletes the thread when you delete a post).What happened to the last one? Did Priceless hit the 'delete' button again?
Therefore I blame Kepler (where is he by the way?).
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
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Looks like Board woke up from a nap long enough to delete the old thread and give Pio a vacation.
Looks like Board woke up from a nap long enough to delete the old thread and give Pio a vacation.
manurespreader
Still upright
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which was ENTIRELY appropriate.
which was ENTIRELY appropriate.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
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i was gonna throw this in the old thread, but it is gone...
http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/federal_spending_by_state.php?chart=Z0&year=2009&units=b&rank=d
it is only updated through 2009
i was gonna throw this in the old thread, but it is gone...
http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/federal_spending_by_state.php?chart=Z0&year=2009&units=b&rank=d
it is only updated through 2009
Foxton
Banned
French Rage
NICKERSON HAS [CENSORED]
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Wait what happened?
Wait what happened?
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Its a good perspective...esp when you look at it per capita. A big state will just have higher spending.
Even so, I'm of the opinion that if a state can earn enough...then its can do what it wants with its tax money. The issue with the site you've got here is that it ignores the fact that some states pay enough taxes to pay for their spending. Others do not.
Its a good perspective...esp when you look at it per capita. A big state will just have higher spending.
Even so, I'm of the opinion that if a state can earn enough...then its can do what it wants with its tax money. The issue with the site you've got here is that it ignores the fact that some states pay enough taxes to pay for their spending. Others do not.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
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huh?
we weren't talking about the states spending, but the fed govt spending in the states.
i can look here at the 'federal by state' and read that AL sent $20.1b to the IRS.
they then pulled in $54.7 in fed spending (12.3b in defense, 42.4 non-defense). there are 12.1b in direct payments (social, medi, etc). grants of 10b. procurement (payments to contractors) 10.4b. salaries and wages of 4.7b.
either way, AL took in $34.6b more from Washington than they sent. and here we get an idea where it went and for what.
huh?
we weren't talking about the states spending, but the fed govt spending in the states.
i can look here at the 'federal by state' and read that AL sent $20.1b to the IRS.
they then pulled in $54.7 in fed spending (12.3b in defense, 42.4 non-defense). there are 12.1b in direct payments (social, medi, etc). grants of 10b. procurement (payments to contractors) 10.4b. salaries and wages of 4.7b.
either way, AL took in $34.6b more from Washington than they sent. and here we get an idea where it went and for what.
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Ah yes. There is a 'switch to revenue' link there. Its good. But you still need the per capita perspective it supplies.
So I did a back of the napkin look subtracting non military expenditures from federal tax payments on a per capita look. Taking out DE, the top 10 surplus states were:
Minnesota
Connecticut
New Jersey
Nebraska
Texas
Illinois
New York
Ohio
Rhode Island
Colorado
80% Obama states
Taking out AK, HI and DC, the bottom 10 deficit states were:
New Mexico
West Virginia
Montana
Mississippi
North Dakota
South Carolina
Alabama
Maine
South Dakota
Idaho
80% Romney states
Ah yes. There is a 'switch to revenue' link there. Its good. But you still need the per capita perspective it supplies.
So I did a back of the napkin look subtracting non military expenditures from federal tax payments on a per capita look. Taking out DE, the top 10 surplus states were:
Minnesota
Connecticut
New Jersey
Nebraska
Texas
Illinois
New York
Ohio
Rhode Island
Colorado
80% Obama states
Taking out AK, HI and DC, the bottom 10 deficit states were:
New Mexico
West Virginia
Montana
Mississippi
North Dakota
South Carolina
Alabama
Maine
South Dakota
Idaho
80% Romney states
ericredaxe
Veteran
What did I miss? I haven't been in here much.... Kind of needed a break from politics for a while.
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Per the New Yorker, the patriotic seven dwarves:
As of yesterday, secession petitions from all fifty states have been submitted to the site. Seven states—Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, North Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas—have received the twenty-five thousand signatures required to trigger a White House review.
Another petition with 25,000 signatures:
We petition the Obama administration to -
Deport Everyone That Signed A Petition To Withdraw Their State From The United States Of America.
Creator
Joshua L
Birmingham, AL
November 12, 2012
Signature # 1
Per the New Yorker, the patriotic seven dwarves:
As of yesterday, secession petitions from all fifty states have been submitted to the site. Seven states—Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, North Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas—have received the twenty-five thousand signatures required to trigger a White House review.
Another petition with 25,000 signatures:
We petition the Obama administration to -
Deport Everyone That Signed A Petition To Withdraw Their State From The United States Of America.
Creator
Joshua L
Birmingham, AL
November 12, 2012
Signature # 1
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Take the source for a grain of salt, but the history surrounding the Texas petition is an interesting read:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/history/2012/11/texas_secession_how_the_lone_star_state_could_mess_with_the_rest_of_us.html
Take the source for a grain of salt, but the history surrounding the Texas petition is an interesting read:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/history/2012/11/texas_secession_how_the_lone_star_state_could_mess_with_the_rest_of_us.html
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
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Handyman made some joke in political context about getting on our knees. Pio, no doubt drunkenly mistaking him for 5mn_major (they are both MN fans), posted, "I imagine you spend a lot of time on your knees". His post was deleted, and thinking he had deleted it, I called him out for being chickensheet. I'm guessing he unloaded on me and the discussion devolved from there, as I did not get a chance to view the fireworks before it was canned.
Handyman made some joke in political context about getting on our knees. Pio, no doubt drunkenly mistaking him for 5mn_major (they are both MN fans), posted, "I imagine you spend a lot of time on your knees". His post was deleted, and thinking he had deleted it, I called him out for being chickensheet. I'm guessing he unloaded on me and the discussion devolved from there, as I did not get a chance to view the fireworks before it was canned.
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Not looking good for The Next Great Hope, Marco Rubio after he fumbled a question regarding how old the Earth is. Even Jeb Bush in on his case. I don't understand how righties have so much trouble with questions like this and evolution, when religion and science on these subjects are compatable. One could theorize that the Earth is in fact 4.5B years old, but was created by a higher power. Same thing with what set evolution in motion. Is Rubio really going to get primaried over something like this?
Not looking good for The Next Great Hope, Marco Rubio after he fumbled a question regarding how old the Earth is. Even Jeb Bush in on his case. I don't understand how righties have so much trouble with questions like this and evolution, when religion and science on these subjects are compatable. One could theorize that the Earth is in fact 4.5B years old, but was created by a higher power. Same thing with what set evolution in motion. Is Rubio really going to get primaried over something like this?
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
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Who the hell would ask someone how old the earth is?!?!?
Who the hell would ask someone how old the earth is?!?!?
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