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2012 Presidential Election Part II -- Charlotte, a National Treasure or sede vacante

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LynahFan said:
I always kind of thought the GOP somehow got away with one by getting red - I mean, would you rather have a red Ferrari or a blue one? Red is the color of flash and pizzazz and speed - nobody wants the blues.

('course, a Cornell fan MIGHT be biased...:))
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It's not Cornell bias, or RPI bias for that matter. ;) When you look at vehicle commercials where a new product is being promoted, what colour is the vehicle most of the time? It is red. I'm sure test audiences have been put together to try to find something very attractive, and that's what they came up with. I'm sure politics wasn't taken into mind, either. Personally, my favourite color scheme is cherry red and royal blue since a background is typically white, but that's just me.
 
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Kepler said:
It's actually quite new -- last 20 years or so. Before that, the networks chose the color on their electoral maps on election night and there was no standard. Eventually it became customary for the incumbent party to be red and the challenger blue. Then it became stuck the way it is now (perhaps when the GOP was incumbent for three straight elections?). It would have been better if the Dems were red, IMHO.
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I think you guys are nuts. :)

I would much rather have blue as a color. Red is the color of anger and negativity. I can tell you that in the battle between Best Buy and Circuit City that color had an impact. Such a subtle thing...but I wouldn't say its a nonfactor.
 
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5mn_Major said:
I think you guys are nuts. :)

I would much rather have blue as a color. Red is the color of anger and negativity. I can tell you that in the battle between Best Buy and Circuit City that color had an impact. Such a subtle thing...but I wouldn't say its a nonfactor.
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Right. Don't the commie socialists have to be red and the patriots, true blue? How would that work if you switched them around? You wouldn't be able to tell who the bad guys are ;)
 
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geezer said:
Right. Don't the commie socialists have to be red and the patriots, true blue? How would that work if you switched them around?
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Seriously. People get ramped up over wrapping themselves in the flag enough.
 
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geezer said:
Right. Don't the commie socialists have to be red and the patriots, true blue? How would that work if you switched them around? You wouldn't be able to tell who the bad guys are ;)
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Correct, red the people's color.

Blue is for senescent blue bloods.

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Kepler said:
Bill's still good at politics.
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He's 100% accurate for the exact reasons given. Saying Romney changes his positions was a good charge during the primaries when you were trying to get a True Believer like Sanitarium the nomination, but now ditch it. It would give Romney precious air cover to say "oh, I don't really believe what I'm saying" (the exact tactic his sister tried this week on abortion rights). What the GOP says, they own.
 
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The number of supposed Obama voters in our USCHO poll has me curious. How many of those folks are simply holding their noses and saying, "At least he's not Mitt?"

FWIW, I'm in the camp of, "No way I'm voting for either of these losers."
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
The number of supposed Obama voters in our USCHO poll has me curious. How many of those folks are simply holding their noses and saying, "At least he's not Mitt?"

FWIW, I'm in the camp of, "No way I'm voting for either of these losers."
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A college aged or relatively younger crowd such as we have here with a few notable exceptions is most likely pro-Obama so that's not a big surprise. While there are certainly some younger voters who don't like Obama, of those I'm not sure Mittens has any appeal. A lot are probably Ron Paul loons. ;)
 
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Since 18 year olds were given the right to vote, they have historically underperformed other demographics. '08 was an exception, they flooded to the polls and supported Obama. Polls seem to indicate a lack of enthusiasm among younger voters and black voters as well. With black voters the question is never "what percentage will support the Democrat." It's always 90% and more. Certainly more for the first black nominee. The question is turnout. Again, polling seems to show a diminished level of enthusiasm here, too.

This election is shaping up to be a "base" election. And His Emptypromisesness is going to have to get younger and black voters charged up or he's a goner.
 
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Old Pio said:
Since 18 year olds were given the right to vote, they have historically underperformed other demographics. '08 was an exception, they flooded to the polls and supported Obama. Polls seem to indicate a lack of enthusiasm among younger voters and black voters as well. With black voters the question is never "what percentage will support the Democrat." It's always 90% and more. Certainly more for the first black nominee. The question is turnout. Again, polling seems to show a diminished level of enthusiasm here, too.

This election is shaping up to be a "base" election. And His Emptypromisesness is going to have to get younger and black voters charged up or he's a goner.
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How about "Old Pio is praying this is a base election circa 1980"? See, there's less of you people (as in old people) this time around as there was in 2008 and you still got your @ sses handed to you. Worse, there was considerable sympathy for McCain given his heroic wartime service that got people to pull the lever for him. No such appeal for Mittens, a guy nobody but his own family likes.

See, the lamestream media continues to try to portray this as a 50/50 election when its anything but. Obama does not need the same turnout this year amongst his coalition given the 7 point cushion he won by last time. Furthermore as younger people make up a greater % of the total his task gets even easier. As has been previously reported, in order to win this election Mittens will have to outperform George HW Bush's numbers amongst whities when he ran against the hapless Dukakis. Good luck with that.
 
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Rover said:
How about "Old Pio is praying this is a base election circa 1980"? See, there's less of you people (as in old people) this time around as there was in 2008 and you still got your @ sses handed to you. Worse, there was considerable sympathy for McCain given his heroic wartime service that got people to pull the lever for him. No such appeal for Mittens, a guy nobody but his own family likes.

See, the lamestream media continues to try to portray this as a 50/50 election when its anything but. Obama does not need the same turnout this year amongst his coalition given the 7 point cushion he won by last time. Furthermore as younger people make up a greater % of the total his task gets even easier. As has been previously reported, in order to win this election Mittens will have to outperform George HW Bush's numbers amongst whities when he ran against the hapless Dukakis. Good luck with that.
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Rover

What are you going to do if Obama loses?
 
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joecct said:
Rover

What are you going to do if Obama loses?
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Laugh, like Kepler find another topic to troll about. They have you guys hook line and sinker
 
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walrus said:
Laugh, like Kepler find another topic to troll about. They have you guys hook line and sinker
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Wait, I can't reply with this hook in my mouth.
 
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Old Pio said:
Meanwhile, the libstains shouldn't be overlooked.

http://zombietime.com/day_of_fail/
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My favorite line:

But I've always wondered this: How hypocritical is it to wear a plastic toy, designed and licensed by the Warner Brothers corporation, and manufactured in a polluting slave-labor Chinese factory, to advertise a mainstream Hollywood film, starring overpaid actors, the profits from which will go to corporate shareholders, and yet you think that by doing this you're somehow anti-capitalist and anti-authoritarian?
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