2012 D1 BCS thread

[alfablue]

Re: 2012 D1 BCS thread

Sorry, alfa. I was very pleased to see Boise run it up against Wyoming in Laramie. Especially after what what a--wad of a coach Dave Christensen did to Air Force. Thanks for dishing out some justice, Boise.

who? Oh, you mean the team that got beat by very bad MSU... yea, that team....

 

[Greyeagle]

Re: 2012 D1 BCS thread

Update- A2 News is reporting that he's expected to play this weekend, with some kind of sleeve on the throwing arm, and that Hoke "thinks" Robinson will practice some this week. they are also reporting Bellomy and Gardner will get more reps this week. Which makes a WHOLE lot of sense.

I know Bellomy didn't do all that well, but given the way the offence was situated, and how quickly he was thrown into it, I'm a lot more optimistic than most. After the 0-10 start, he got some good completions in- just making some forced pass mistakes to finish it out. If the offence is ready for a more true passer + normal running back, I bet they'll do ok (as opposed to horrible). May not light the scoreboard, but not nothing.

Still hope Robinson is ok- sounds like the funny bone hit from hell.

(FWIW, this does not appear to be anywhere near as scary has Miller- to be taken off the field like that, yikes) ((which, in turn, is nothing like poor Lattimore...))

I think Robinson should take this week off.

 

[pgb-ohio]

Re: 2012 D1 BCS thread

I think Robinson should take this week off.

The long term health of the player being your only concern, of course.

 

[Greyeagle]

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The long term health of the player being your only concern, of course.

Absolutely.

 

[Biddco]

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God, you are whipped. I can see not cheering for Minnesota, but cheering for Michigan? Really? Whatever happened to cheering for the old reliable stadium collapse? Even if you will be in the stadium.

I save the latter for the Final Five.

We might have the perfect storm of BCS proportions with a good possibility of four unbeatens when the year is done. Still cannot believe that K State is ranked ahead of Oregon.The Oregon-Bama matchup seems like it should be the final outcome.

 

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

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I save the latter for the Final Five.

We might have the perfect storm of BCS proportions with a good possibility of four unbeatens when the year is done. Still cannot believe that K State is ranked ahead of Oregon.The Oregon-Bama matchup seems like it should be the final outcome.

SOS. Oregon has pretty much played no one so far, so the computers don't favor them. I'd expect the games against USC and Oregon St. to change that, though. They should face Bama in the BCS championship if they remain undefeated.

 

[Spartanforlife4]

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I haven't lost hope yet. Here is what needs to happen for MSU to go back to Indy.

1. Iowa loses @ IU (Iowa 2-3)
2. MSU beats Nebraska (MSU 3-3, Nebraska 3-2)
3. Nebraska loses to Penn State (Nebraska 3-3)
4. UM loses to Northwestern (UM 4-2, Northwestern 4-2)
5. MSU beats Northwestern (MSU 4-3, Northwestern 4-3)
6. Iowa loses @ UM (Iowa 3-4, UM 5-2)
7. Iowa loses to Nebraska (Iowa 3-5, Nebraska 5-3)
8. MSU wins @ Minnesota (MSU 5-3)
9. UM loses @ Ohio State (UM 5-3)
10. Northwestern beats Illinois (Northwestern 5-3)

Causes a 4 way tie. MSU, UNL, NU and UM would all be tied. First tiebreaker is record among tied teams, MSU and UNL would be 2-1, UM and NU 1-2, so they drop out. Then MSU would have the head to head over UNL to break the final tie.

This isn't the only way, but it seems to be the most plausible of all the scenarios.

 

[Biddco]

SOS. Oregon has pretty much played no one so far, so the computers don't favor them. I'd expect the games against USC and Oregon St. to change that, though. They should face Bama in the BCS championship if they remain undefeated.

If course. The Big Twelve is a stronger conference than the PAC 12. It's probably second to the SEC.

 

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

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If course. The Big Twelve is a stronger conference than the PAC 12. It's probably second to the SEC.

3rd. The SEC is so good they take up the first two spots...

 

[MavHockey14]

I hope he plays otherwise ill be very disappointed on Saturday. Going to my first DI college football game then. Very excited.

Go to a game at Michigan, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Iowa, Penn State, Nebraska, or even Michigan State to see gameday done right.

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Re: 2012 D1 BCS thread

Go to a game at Michigan, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Iowa, Penn State, Nebraska, or even Michigan State to see gameday done right.

If you really want to see a gameday done right, go to pretty much any SEC school, and a few other select southern schools.

 

[MavHockey14]

If you really want to see a gameday done right, go to pretty much any SEC school, and a few other select southern schools.

I understand what you're saying, but don't underestimate the Big Ten fan bases. They're known as some of the best in the country.

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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I understand what you're saying, but don't underestimate the Big Ten fan bases. They're known as some of the best in the country.

Having gone to a few B1G football games (Michigan, State, Wisconsin, and Ohio State), they blow in comparison to the SEC/Southern experiences I've had (Clemson, USC, Georgia, Alabama, and Auburn). It's literally like the difference between going to a North Dakota v. Minnesota hockey game and going to a Ferris State v. Connecticut hockey game.

 

[The Rube]

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I understand what you're saying, but don't underestimate the Big Ten fan bases. They're known as some of the best in the country.

No. Not compared to the south. Down there it's God, family, football. And not necessarily in that order. Christ, I've met women down there that can rattle off more stats than any ESPN talking head.

 

[bronconick]

Re: 2012 D1 BCS thread

Hell, Old Miss probably has some of the best tailgating in the country, and they average about 4 wins a year.

As far as the BCS goes, Kansas State might slip in in a 4 team undefeated setup. Consider that that would require another Stanford loss to 9-3 at best, and 2, perhaps 3 USC losses if they still reach the PAC-12 title game, dropping them to 8-5 and simultaneously hurting both Oregon and Notre Dame who have to beat the Trojans to stay unbeaten.

 

[MavHockey14]

Re: 2012 D1 BCS thread

Hell, Old Miss probably has some of the best tailgating in the country, and they average about 4 wins a year.

As far as the BCS goes, Kansas State might slip in in a 4 team undefeated setup. Consider that that would require another Stanford loss to 9-3 at best, and 2, perhaps 3 USC losses if they still reach the PAC-12 title game, dropping them to 8-5 and simultaneously hurting both Oregon and Notre Dame who have to beat the Trojans to stay unbeaten.

I've seen Ole Miss, that is so awesome.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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Hell, Old Miss probably has some of the best tailgating in the country, and they average about 4 wins a year.

Well, yeah. Who needs wins to enjoy that "scenery"?

 

[pgb-ohio]

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Having gone to a few B1G football games (Michigan, State, Wisconsin, and Ohio State), they blow in comparison to the SEC/Southern experiences I've had (Clemson, USC, Georgia, Alabama, and Auburn). It's literally like the difference between going to a North Dakota v. Minnesota hockey game and going to a Ferris State v. Connecticut hockey game.

It's not every day that Ohio State gets accused of not being serious enough about football. So you definitely have my attention. Also, I've been to games at each of the other three stadiums, and found all of them to "big time" in every respect. So I start out being a bit skeptical of your position.

For one thing, I've been to several NFL venues and found that the Big Ten gameday atmosphere compares very favorably. So I guess your take would be that the NFL also "blows." Still, I've never been to a southern team's home game. So I'd like to hear more about your SEC/ACC experiences. In other words, I'm willing to learn.

But right up front, I already know your hockey analogy is ridiculous. The problem with a Ferris/UConn match-up would be smallish crowds in inadequate facilities. Ann Arbor, East Lansing, Madison, Columbus for BT Football? Sorry, you're 0 for 4 on both counts. Go ahead and toss in Iowa City if you want; 0 for 5 on both counts.

I will say this. The atmosphere at BT stadiums varies greatly with the opponent. Take in one of the non-conference cupcake games, and you've got a gripe. Many fans treat those match-ups almost like a spring game. So let's say you attended OSU/Akron and never came back. Of course you'd leave underwhelmed. If you're saying that the SEC fanbases bring their 'A' game every week regardless of opponent, hats off to 'em. If true, I'd be a little surprised, but certainly impressed.

Another thing to clarify: Are we talking inside the stadium or outside the stadium? Tailgating and eye candy are fine things. But what goes on inside the venue is of much greater concern to me. So if your point is that tailgating is better in the south, my response is that it could well be, and that I'm fine with that. I'll just sit back and enjoy your stories.

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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It's not every day that Ohio State gets accused of not being serious enough about football. So you definitely have my attention. Also, I've been to games at each of the other three stadiums, and found all of them to "big time" in every respect. So I start out being a bit skeptical of your position.

For one thing, I've been to several NFL venues and found that the Big Ten gameday atmosphere compares very favorably. So I guess your take would be that the NFL also "blows." Still, I've never been to a southern team's home game. So I'd like to hear more about your SEC/ACC experiences. In other words, I'm willing to learn.

But right up front, I already know your hockey analogy is ridiculous. The problem with a Ferris/UConn match-up would be smallish crowds in inadequate facilities. Ann Arbor, East Lansing, Madison, Columbus for BT Football? Sorry, you're 0 for 4 on both counts. Go ahead and toss in Iowa City if you want; 0 for 5 on both counts.

I will say this. The atmosphere at BT stadiums varies greatly with the opponent. Take in one of the non-conference cupcake games, and you've got a gripe. Many fans treat those match-ups almost like a spring game. So let's say you attended OSU/Akron and never came back. Of course you'd leave underwhelmed. If you're saying that the SEC fanbases bring their 'A' game every week regardless of opponent, hats off to 'em. If true, I'd be a little surprised, but certainly impressed.

Another thing to clarify: Are we talking inside the stadium or outside the stadium? Tailgating and eye candy are fine things. But what goes on inside the venue is of much greater concern to me. So if your point is that tailgating is better in the south, my response is that it could well be, and that I'm fine with that. I'll just sit back and enjoy your stories.

I was talking about game day experience (inside and outside the stadium). Perhaps my hockey analogy was a bit of hyperbole in trying to make a point, but there is definitely a significant difference. I would put the NFL relatively on par with the B1G...the thing is the SEC/Southern experience is significantly better than the NFL game day experience.

FWIW, the B1G games I saw were Michigan @ State (2005 - OT game), State @ Michigan (2004 - 3OT game), Random U (I think it was Ball State...but I don't really remember ) @ Wisconsin (2005), and State @ Ohio State (2005).

And it's not just tailgaiting and eye candy (which are significantly better), but inside the stadium (from the fans in the crowd, to the product on the field) is also significantly slanted towards the South. Try a game out there, and I think you'll be blown away. Just remember, bigger stadiums do not equal better experience.

 

[Biddco]

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Go to a game at Michigan, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Iowa, Penn State, Nebraska, or even Michigan State to see gameday done right.

I'd love to do a game at Michigan, Nebraska, Iowa or Wisconsin. But it takes a much lower priority when compared to hockey road trips.