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2011 College Football Part II: Bowls, The Rematch, and Recruiting >Tebow

Re: 2011 College Football Part II: Bowls, The Rematch, and Recruiting >Tebow

When I think of John L. Smith, I think of this.

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Re: 2011 College Football Part II: Bowls, The Rematch, and Recruiting >Tebow

All you need to know.

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Re: 2011 College Football Part II: Bowls, The Rematch, and Recruiting >Tebow

He's getting a lot of flack for leaving Weber State. How could you not leave, at his age, for that opportunity?
 
Re: 2011 College Football Part II: Bowls, The Rematch, and Recruiting >Tebow

MavHockey14 said:
He's getting a lot of flack for leaving Weber State. How could you not leave, at his age, for that opportunity?
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For a 10 month tryout contract for only $850k? No thanks.

I understand that Weber St. is a FCS team and he was making under $200k, but to bail on a team (your alma mater no less) after 4.5 MONTHS as the HC doesn't show much character. He deserves all the flack he is getting.
 
Almington said:
For a 10 month tryout contract for only $850k? No thanks.

I understand that Weber St. is a FCS team and he was making under $200k, but to bail on a team (your alma mater no less) after 4.5 MONTHS as the HC doesn't show much character. He deserves all the flack he is getting.
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In addition to that 850K contract, he's stepping into a program he's familiar with a fantastic team and a potential or a national title run.
 
Re: 2011 College Football Part II: Bowls, The Rematch, and Recruiting >Tebow

I don't blame him per se, but as a Hogs fan I am not all that enamored.
 
Re: 2011 College Football Part II: Bowls, The Rematch, and Recruiting >Tebow

MavHockey14 said:
In addition to that 850K contract, he's stepping into a program he's familiar with a fantastic team and a potential or a national title run.
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And I think Arkansas made a compelling argument to help them out in this emergency. With his hiring this late, many fewer players will feel compelled to leave, and the current recruiting trail will still be hot- all of the staff that was under Petrino will stay- and that does mean a lot.

I fully agree with SlapShot on the quality of hire, but it seems to be the lesser of evils over a long haul for Arkansas.

One of the funny posts on the Idaho board I read is "how could he accept the Weber State job if he was going to do this?" Yea, like 4 months ago when they offered him the job, every one KNEW that Petrino was going to have a bike accident that would expose his corruption, and we all KNEW that JL Smith was going to be the emergency hire. yea....

I agree that he deserves flack. But one must understand that I'm sure he also has stronger ties to the players at Arkansas, since he was just a coach there, and feels very badly for them about what has transpired, over that of Weber State.
 
Re: 2011 College Football Part II: Bowls, The Rematch, and Recruiting >Tebow

If he's kept any of his character, John L's press conferences will be incredibly fun to watch.

I don't know if 10 months is enough, but Smith will at least try to fix internal issues at Arkansas if there are any. MSU was in shambles everywhere when he arrived after the firing of Bobby Williams. Smith came in and turned things around, and had one good year on the field before everything just stopped working. When Dantonio came in the team was in about as bad of shape as when Williams left it but the program as a whole was in better condition.

Although John L could just say eff it because it's only ten months and then I guess Arkansas will just be left with a lot of 4th quarter collapses.
 
Re: 2011 College Football Part II: Bowls, The Rematch, and Recruiting >Tebow

Here comes the 4 team playoff...

http://www.startribune.com/sports/149101685.html

You thought realignment sucked before...4 team playoff means the Super conferences are a must now. Minus the coming Notre Dame clause no one outside the majors has any chance to win the title. (not that they realistically did before)
 
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Handyman said:
Here comes the 4 team playoff...

http://www.startribune.com/sports/149101685.html

You thought realignment sucked before...4 team playoff means the Super conferences are a must now. Minus the coming Notre Dame clause no one outside the majors has any chance to win the title. (not that they realistically did before)
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"If there are not 4 undefeated teams and Notre Dame has at least 6 wins, then they shall be invited to the 4-team playoff" -- the upcoming Notre Dame clause

* Notre Dame. If they want to compete for the NC then they need to earn a spot in the top 4 like any other school or join a conference. I doubt we're going to see a "Boise State clause" in the event they run the table...
 
Re: 2011 College Football Part II: Bowls, The Rematch, and Recruiting >Tebow

Oh, the low-majors will get the same opening that Notre Dame does. Run the table and finish in the top 4. I blame the Mountain West for mouthing off so much. The other conferences will get more cash with less access and shrug it off.

ND might be able to go 11-1 unlike Tennessee Technical State and still be #4 though. The conferences love Notre Dame in their current state. TV will pay out the nose for the chance that ND might make the "Football Four" one year, but they never will because as long as Notre Dame has their own separate TV contract, they have to fill their schedule with games vs. Oklahoma, Miami, Michigan, MSU, USC, Stanford and so on. NBC won't pay $15 million for the Irish to schedule MAC, FCS and WAC schools like their foes in the Big Ten, PAC-12 etc. do. This year they'll be lucky to be bowl eligible.
 
Re: 2011 College Football Part II: Bowls, The Rematch, and Recruiting >Tebow

I'm not sure Notre Dame's schedule history is that daunting. It's been a mixed bag, with some seasons looking pretty easy, and some shaping up a bit tougher. But I don't think Notre Dame has a reputation for facing a buzzsaw of a regular season schedule.
 
Re: 2011 College Football Part II: Bowls, The Rematch, and Recruiting >Tebow

Bob Gray said:
I'm not sure Notre Dame's schedule history is that daunting. It's been a mixed bag, with some seasons looking pretty easy, and some shaping up a bit tougher. But I don't think Notre Dame has a reputation for facing a buzzsaw of a regular season schedule.
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Yes they do. The ND schedule has moderated a little in the past few seasons.

This year ND has an absolutely brutal schedule:
09/01/12 vs. Navy (in Dublin, Ireland)
09/08/12 vs. Purdue
09/15/12 at Michigan State
09/22/12 vs. Michigan
10/06/12 vs. Miami
10/13/12 vs. Stanford
10/20/12 vs. BYU
10/27/12 at Oklahoma
11/03/12 vs. Pittsburgh
11/10/12 at Boston College
11/17/12 vs. Wake Forest
11/24/12 at USC
 
Re: 2011 College Football Part II: Bowls, The Rematch, and Recruiting >Tebow

Handyman said:
Minus the coming Notre Dame clause no one outside the majors has any chance to win the title. (not that they realistically did before)
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Well, as long as someone outside the SEC has a chance, it's a step forward.
 
Re: 2011 College Football Part II: Bowls, The Rematch, and Recruiting >Tebow

Bob Gray said:
I'm not sure Notre Dame's schedule history is that daunting. It's been a mixed bag, with some seasons looking pretty easy, and some shaping up a bit tougher. But I don't think Notre Dame has a reputation for facing a buzzsaw of a regular season schedule.
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97-09 Average SOS compared against teh B1Gz. Not the hardest in the country by any means, but pretty comical compared to Wisconsin.

Notre Dame 20.6
Michigan 28.1
Ohio State 30.8
Iowa 32.8
Michigan State 35.4
Penn State 35.6
Purdue 38.66
Illinois 40.1
Northwestern 40.1
Minnesota 42.8
Indiana 44.8
Wisconsin 46.2
 
Re: 2011 College Football Part II: Bowls, The Rematch, and Recruiting >Tebow

Almington said:
Yes they do. The ND schedule has moderated a little in the past few seasons.

This year ND has an absolutely brutal schedule:
09/01/12 vs. Navy (in Dublin, Ireland)
09/08/12 vs. Purdue
09/15/12 at Michigan State
09/22/12 vs. Michigan
10/06/12 vs. Miami
10/13/12 vs. Stanford
10/20/12 vs. BYU
10/27/12 at Oklahoma
11/03/12 vs. Pittsburgh
11/10/12 at Boston College
11/17/12 vs. Wake Forest
11/24/12 at USC
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Agreed that's a brutal schedule. But I recall even Notre Dame fans coming on here in years past and saying how they shouldn't lose many games as they didn't face much outside of their Big Ten tilts and USC. Glad to see they're scheduling tougher games. Too bad the system in place really doesn't incentivize it, but kudos to the Irish for doing so.
 
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bronconick said:
This year they'll be lucky to be bowl eligible.
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It just got harder.

Notre Dame's schedules were brutal back in the days when they were playing Penn State and Miami and Georgia Tech/Tennessee in addition to Michigan and USC. Cycling in Stanford and BC weakened the schedule at that time (which makes it even funnier/sadder that we tend to lose to them, especially at the worst possible times).

This year's just turned out to be nuts.
 
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Re: 2011 College Football Part II: Bowls, The Rematch, and Recruiting >Tebow

I thought I read that part of it is that they had the schedule two years ago where their NBC "home" schedule finished with Western Michigan (had to replace a game late), Navy, Tulsa, Utah and Army @ Yankee Stadium. They ended up with some of their lowest ratings ever on NBC and the network hinted that if their future schedules were similar, the agreement after 2015 was going to have to be looked at. Thus, Oklahoma, Miami, Texas four times between 2015 and 2020, etc.
 
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