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Re: 2011-2012 North Dakota Offseason Thread
Lucia has won it 3 times in the last 10 years genius.
Lucia has won it 3 times in the last 10 years genius.
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2011-2012 North Dakota Offseason Thread
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Fighting Sioux 23
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Re: 2011-2012 North Dakota Offseason Thread
Well, it could certainly be argued that both the B1G and NCHC will be weaker than the current WCHA. That being said, both new conferences will certainly be capable of claiming to be stronger than the current WCHA (especially if Penn State and Ohio State benefit by the new conference alignments).
As for the B1G/NCHC comparisons, currently the future NCHC seems to have the upper hand in terms of overall strength. However, we'll see what happens when the new conference alignments are actually in place. My guess is that the B1G/NCHC/HE are annually fighting over who should be considered top-dog, and the debate will last as long as those conference alignments last (similar to the WCHA/CCHA/HE debates where all the conferences had their day in the sun).
Well, it could certainly be argued that both the B1G and NCHC will be weaker than the current WCHA. That being said, both new conferences will certainly be capable of claiming to be stronger than the current WCHA (especially if Penn State and Ohio State benefit by the new conference alignments).
As for the B1G/NCHC comparisons, currently the future NCHC seems to have the upper hand in terms of overall strength. However, we'll see what happens when the new conference alignments are actually in place. My guess is that the B1G/NCHC/HE are annually fighting over who should be considered top-dog, and the debate will last as long as those conference alignments last (similar to the WCHA/CCHA/HE debates where all the conferences had their day in the sun).
Fighting Sioux 23
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Re: 2011-2012 North Dakota Offseason Thread
My only guess at what he meant was the Final Five. Even still, Minnesota won it just 6 years ago, and Lucia has won it 3 times in his tenure at Minnesota. Wisconsin, of course, last won it 15 years ago.
Given that, it is still quite ridiculous to say when Minnesota just won the MacNaughton and was the best team in the league last season.
My only guess at what he meant was the Final Five. Even still, Minnesota won it just 6 years ago, and Lucia has won it 3 times in his tenure at Minnesota. Wisconsin, of course, last won it 15 years ago.
Given that, it is still quite ridiculous to say when Minnesota just won the MacNaughton and was the best team in the league last season.
Re: 2011-2012 North Dakota Offseason Thread
if you dont think ohio state is going to draw talent away from miami of ohio than you are seriously underestimating how popular the big ten is in that part of the country. ohio state will likely be a strong school in the future.. as will penn state with the amount of revenue they can put into hiring/recruiting/facilities etc
the big ten is going to be very competitive in time
if you dont think ohio state is going to draw talent away from miami of ohio than you are seriously underestimating how popular the big ten is in that part of the country. ohio state will likely be a strong school in the future.. as will penn state with the amount of revenue they can put into hiring/recruiting/facilities etc
the big ten is going to be very competitive in time
Re: 2011-2012 North Dakota Offseason Thread
I also found that amusing as well. Apparently, there are no repercussions for peeing in the street in front of a bar during the early morning hours.
Re: 2011-2012 North Dakota Offseason Thread
Not true, I heard he had to write "I will not pee in the street in front of a bar during the early morning hours" 100 times on the blackboard.
Not true, I heard he had to write "I will not pee in the street in front of a bar during the early morning hours" 100 times on the blackboard.
Slap Shot
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Re: 2011-2012 North Dakota Offseason Thread
The NCHC's bottom 4 teams are going to be UMD, SCSU, Miami, and Western Michigan. Those would be top tier teams in ANY other conference in the country. From top to bottom, every team in the conference is fairly regularly in the NCAA tourney. Just my opinion I guess though.
The NCHC's bottom 4 teams are going to be UMD, SCSU, Miami, and Western Michigan. Those would be top tier teams in ANY other conference in the country. From top to bottom, every team in the conference is fairly regularly in the NCAA tourney. Just my opinion I guess though.
Fighting Sioux 23
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Re: 2011-2012 North Dakota Offseason Thread
I would agree with you that right now the future NCHC appears to be the best conference from top to bottom. However, we will have to wait and see what happens as a result of the new alignment. In 10 years, if Western and Duluth finish at the bottom of the NCHC every year, they wouldn't be a "top tier team" in any conference. Likewise, if Michigan Tech wins 6 out of 10 WCHA titles, goes to 8 NCAA Tournaments, and makes a Frozen Four or two, they would likely be seen as a "top tier team" in any conference.
My point is that we can't make arguments about perceived future strength of the new alignment based on perceptions from the old alignment.
Now, if in 10 years, the NCHC has each of their 8 teams make several NCAA appearances, and half the conference wins a national title, then it would appear that the NCHC would probably be the most powerful conference. However, if only 3 teams make the NCAA Tournament, and the conference only has one national champion in that time frame, it would be hard to argue that the NCHC is anything more than a slightly more powerful ECAC. FWIW, you can plug that same hypothetical in for any of the other conferences and you'll get the same result.
I would agree with you that right now the future NCHC appears to be the best conference from top to bottom. However, we will have to wait and see what happens as a result of the new alignment. In 10 years, if Western and Duluth finish at the bottom of the NCHC every year, they wouldn't be a "top tier team" in any conference. Likewise, if Michigan Tech wins 6 out of 10 WCHA titles, goes to 8 NCAA Tournaments, and makes a Frozen Four or two, they would likely be seen as a "top tier team" in any conference.
My point is that we can't make arguments about perceived future strength of the new alignment based on perceptions from the old alignment.
Now, if in 10 years, the NCHC has each of their 8 teams make several NCAA appearances, and half the conference wins a national title, then it would appear that the NCHC would probably be the most powerful conference. However, if only 3 teams make the NCAA Tournament, and the conference only has one national champion in that time frame, it would be hard to argue that the NCHC is anything more than a slightly more powerful ECAC. FWIW, you can plug that same hypothetical in for any of the other conferences and you'll get the same result.
Slap Shot
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Re: 2011-2012 North Dakota Offseason Thread
Even the SEC has doormats. As far as those programs being "top tier" anywhere else and having regular NCAA participation, WMU has been in 4 times since '93-'94, SCSU is 3 for their last 9 and UMD has been 5 times since '92-'93. For good measure UNO has been 2 times in 14 years. I bet WMU and UMD finish outside the "top tier" of their conference more often than not. To take it further you can count Div I NCAA titles and conference titles on one hand between those 5 schools, and 6 members combined have won 3 titles.
And by the way my point is not to proclaim the WCHA or BT will be better nor is it intended as a slam on those programs - just providing some perspective.
Even the SEC has doormats. As far as those programs being "top tier" anywhere else and having regular NCAA participation, WMU has been in 4 times since '93-'94, SCSU is 3 for their last 9 and UMD has been 5 times since '92-'93. For good measure UNO has been 2 times in 14 years. I bet WMU and UMD finish outside the "top tier" of their conference more often than not. To take it further you can count Div I NCAA titles and conference titles on one hand between those 5 schools, and 6 members combined have won 3 titles.
And by the way my point is not to proclaim the WCHA or BT will be better nor is it intended as a slam on those programs - just providing some perspective.
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MinnesotaNorthStar
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Re: 2011-2012 North Dakota Offseason Thread
Whatever will the rest of us do?
So all 3 DI prospects in Ohio will be going a B1G school?
Whatever will the rest of us do?
Dirty
#BanBiddy
Re: 2011-2012 North Dakota Offseason Thread
Hopefully recruit overaged Canadians so we won't have to worry about them getting Minors.
Hopefully recruit overaged Canadians so we won't have to worry about them getting Minors.
PhatKroger10
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Re: 2011-2012 North Dakota Offseason Thread
When does the official WCHA preseason polls come out? Is Grimaldi the odds on favorite for ROTY... again?
When does the official WCHA preseason polls come out? Is Grimaldi the odds on favorite for ROTY... again?
Re: 2011-2012 North Dakota Offseason Thread
I would hope not since he is not a rookie.
I would hope not since he is not a rookie.
PhatKroger10
and I like to Party
Re: 2011-2012 North Dakota Offseason Thread
Yes he is. He was granted a medical redshirt and is technically a freshman again. Check his bio:
http://www.undsports.com/SportSelect.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=13500&SPID=6405&SPSID=58685
Yes he is. He was granted a medical redshirt and is technically a freshman again. Check his bio:
http://www.undsports.com/SportSelect.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=13500&SPID=6405&SPSID=58685
HarleyMC
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Re: 2011-2012 North Dakota Offseason Thread
As I suspected, that explains why they are ordering mandatory UND AA team meetings. Of course, Whioux fans here were soooo convinced they called team AA meetings because of NDSU's bad publicity.
Completing the syllogism: Therefore, UND players always do bad things. Questions: 1) Will UND ever get a decent role model? and 2) Will Hak crack a smile this season?
As I suspected, that explains why they are ordering mandatory UND AA team meetings. Of course, Whioux fans here were soooo convinced they called team AA meetings because of NDSU's bad publicity.
Completing the syllogism: Therefore, UND players always do bad things. Questions: 1) Will UND ever get a decent role model? and 2) Will Hak crack a smile this season?
cross cheque
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Re: 2011-2012 North Dakota Offseason Thread
If he does you will know immediately because he will need stitches on his lips for all the cracking and bleeding.
If he does you will know immediately because he will need stitches on his lips for all the cracking and bleeding.