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2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

Ok, I agree, we don't have a line as good as Marcou, etc. But.........you guys are comparing to the top line in the country. Few teams, if any, have a line as dangerous as the Marcou line.....

I am not sure about the Melrose less skilled comment. While UVM is certainly not flashy by any means, I think overall we can skate with anyone as shown by our record.

Talent is not our problem, consistency is.
 
Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

I agree that its not so much lack of skill as lack of cohesiveness, and sometimes effort (move the feet) that is holding the Cats back.

I think if you actually compared the skill depth of UMASS to UVM that UVM is probably stronger. But UMASS has that awesome line and that takes pressure off the rest of their team while UVM has no such offensive threat

I watched that game and I was mentally comparing it to where UVM was in the stretch run last year and they had poor games like that in the second half last year also (Friday night loss at NU that I attended, Friday night loss to Mack at home, second QF loss at home to UML)

So, the fact that they can play relatively poorly and still win due to strong goaltending (which has generally been a weakness all year until now) and defense bodes well

However, on the flip side, they are definitely not as strong on offense so they are more like the 2006/7 and 2007/8 team in terms of having to trap, dump and chase, grind it out, play a good PK, rely on a good offense, and hope to pop a couple of goals home - whereas last year they had VStalburg attracting the attention of the other teams best D line and that gave some room to the other lines to create. Plus they had Lenes who was more of a finisher than anyone they have currently.

Due to the lack of offense I think they'll be lucky to finish better than 5th in HE - although they might still sneak into the tournament if they win 7 or 8 of the remaining 12 and are lucky with the TUC's

Huge weekend coming up with Maine. Gotta figure Maine is the most likely team ahead of the Cats that is possibly going to drop back to them. The Cats are not going to catch UNH, BC, or Umass and UML should pick it up a bit from their early January problems.

They certainly need Downing back.

I still like what I see from McCarthy, Pacan, Stalburg, Franzon and Roos(although dumb penalty by Pacan Sunday) and I think that class has a lot of potential.
 
Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

Not a lot of joy in Mudville after a big shutout win on the road over a highly-ranked, high in the standings UMass team. Therefore, please let me vent.

First, thank you, Jack Downing, on behalf of some of the people who support the Catamounts, for your commitment and dedication to the team. As the team flounders and 'tries' to 'find itself,' a first line player, a junior, violating the student code is a wonderful contribution to make to your team. Thank you and keep up the good work. I would also like to nominate you to be a captain next year as you are obviously a person and player who can lead both on AND off the ice. The funny thing is, you were replaced by a better hockey player, Chris McCarthy, who made a play to Wahs Stacey that you could never have seen, let alone made.

On January 24, coach Sneddon's team is working on its leadership. I hope the work starts by looking in the mirror. I liked Pacan's penalty early in the 1st period but I loved Cullity's running the goalie penalty that negated a powerplay opportunity. What a disciplined team the coach is running. And then the too many men penalty deserves a real tip of the cap to the coach. Running a real tight bench, you are, coach. Maybe things are just happening too quickly out there for the mastermind.

Any team that has more than one captain does NOT have a leader. Despite holding out 2 players as captains, this team very obviously does not have much leadership. Roloff's 'C,' with all due respect, appears to stand for nothing more than 'Center,' the position he plays. Miller's 'C' appears to stand for 'Ceriously?' And Cullity's 'A' obviously stands for 'Another stupid penalty,' and that was before his running the goalie penalty yesterday. A veteran team with too much leadership to name just one captain operates like this one? Am I missing legendary leadership here? As for Jack Downing - and thanks again, Jack - any fault for his lack of discipline or commitment on the coach? Or his captains' leadership? It's working great, guys.

I am on a mission. I am in search of a powerplay unit at any level of hockey from high school up that has 3 players (Marshall, Miller, MacKenzie) with 1 goal each, now that MacKenzie got his 1st goal of the season. If you spot one, please let me know. To me, if you put a unit together with 3 1-goal scorers - and it ain't like any of them are big set up guys, either - you are coaching at the wrong level of hockey. I am sure that Matt Marshall's mom and dad love watching him play, but I don't. Is there any such thing as a player who does not belong at the level he's playing at? Matt Marshall (1g-3a) plays a regular shift - and the 4th line does NOT miss a shift, ever - and he kills penalties AND he plays on the powerplay. And he has 1 goal and 3 assists. I know that Marshall and Higgins and Anctil played a ton yesterday, being penalty killers, but did Brayden Irwin or Justin Milo, non-penalty killers, even play yesterday? I saw a lot a 19, 7, 14, and 10 for UMass and I saw way too much of 16, 17, and 25 for UVM.

Argue all you want for playing a 4th line, with 3 combined goals now that Anctil got one, but when the UMass assistant coach was asked before the 2nd period if their 1st line was going to get a bit of a rest after playing so much in the 1st period, he said, "Our playmakers play." A little different philosophy than Sneddon's let's play guys who cannot possibly score, even in the dying minutes of Saturday's game trailing 2-1. Good luck, coach, regularly using a 4th line against teams that don't play their 4th line nearly as much as they play their top 2 lines.

So, the team played with fire, giving UMass 9 PP opportunities, and got away with it. Because the PK is so darn good, Pacan can take a senseless cross checking penalty less than a minute after Irwin's silly interference penalty, and Marshall can run into the goalie with the team on the PP, and the coach can take an out of control too many men penalty, and Cullity, a defenseman, can run the goalie during a delayed penalty, and everything is alright.

And the fans are still not happy.

So this team's losses suck and their wins just stink. Coach Sneddon, with the help of his 'leadership team,' is doing a great job of trying to get this team to reach its (overrated?) potential.

That was an ugly, ugly win to conclude an ugly, ugly series in a season that has some wonderful performances and wins yet looks ugly and smells stinky. Guys quitting, guys taking leaves of absences. This season that began with such (overrated?) promise for the most part just stinks.

If they can just work out that leadership thing they're working on as January and the season wind down, and if that 4th line can keep doing what it does - and it ain't scoring - regardless of the game situation, and if we can just get a couple more 1 goal scorers for the Marshall, Miller, MacKenzie PP unit - Higgins? Anctil? Cullity? - the team is going to be fine. Even if it sucks watching them play hockey.

Go Cats! Go!

P.S. - Thanks, Jack.
 
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Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

Hey g-RANT-fan ...
I didn't put your post in quotes ... why take up all that space ... but just wanted to say ... Simmer down there a little boy ... take a deep breath ... step outside a little and let the rain wet you down!
My God ... have there ever been so many cheap shots in one post? ... ah, wait ... this IS USCHO Fan Forum ... of course there have been.
But that one is among the leaders.

Comments like these from a FAN? Wow!
 
Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

Let's just drop the G and go with "rantfan"

All you do is complain as if this was a pro team and you are the owner who pays thier salaries. These kids and coaches dont need to please you or anyone else here, and we all know that its impossible to please you even with a road shutout of a ranked team.
 
Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

gRantfan - get a life or find something else you hate and write about that.

You cannot seriously call yourself a UVM hockey fan with the crap that you write.
 
Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

I don't think fans at arms length can tell who the best captains were but I would think Strong and Sifers were among the best.
 
Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

gRantfan - get a life or find something else you hate and write about that.

You cannot seriously call yourself a UVM hockey fan with the crap that you write.

I am surprised that so many people plunk down hard earned cash for season tickets, only to be miserable each and every game!
 
Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

I am surprised that so many people plunk down hard earned cash for season tickets, only to be miserable each and every game!

I suspect GRANTFAN is a WOJCIK head - he only listens to the radio broadcast.....

I'll be the first to admit that he has a point with Cullity. Not sure if y' all remember his PAPA- back in the day, he would sit in front of the net and poke 'em in. Real tough guy. I don't recall his stats. I suspect GRAwojcikNTFAN has the bible and can whip them off.

That was back when George Commo was the voice - I wonder if GRANTwojcikFAN was listening back then. :D
 
Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

Sifers.

He did it on the ice and off the ice better than anyone.

Many people have worn a "C" but very few can be called "The Captain"

He would block a shot and hobble off the ice and return 30 seconds later to do it again.
 
Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

Who was the best recent captain ?

Sifers.

He did it on the ice and off the ice better than anyone.

Many people have worn a "C" but very few can be called "The Captain"

He would block a shot and hobble off the ice and return 30 seconds later to do it again.

Same could be said for Dean Strong...block a shot then be right back out there.

Sifers was 3 year captain and his leadership got the team through the ECAC to Hockey East. Strong got the team to the Frozen Four.

Since the question was best "recent" captain, these 2 probably "had" the locker room in a way that Coach Sneddon is still looking for from the current group.
 
Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

Isn't Sifers the career leader in penalty minutes. He wasn't stupid, just tough.

The players know who there leaders are, coaches can't make them, but they can hurt a team by forcing something that isn't there.
 
Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

Isn't Sifers the career leader in penalty minutes. He wasn't stupid, just tough.

The players know who there leaders are, coaches can't make them, but they can hurt a team by forcing something that isn't there.


I would assume you didnt watch the Cats when Sifer's played or you would not have made such a comment. Sifer's prob played 30min a game and he hardly ever took a bad penalty.

The old line from Sneddon was when he would ask Sifers to get a few players together for something like going to deliver teddy bears from the teddy bear toss etc he would show up with half the team. Guys that take dumb penalties dont get that kid of respect from their reammates.
 
Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

Same could be said for Dean Strong...block a shot then be right back out there.

Sifers was 3 year captain and his leadership got the team through the ECAC to Hockey East. Strong got the team to the Frozen Four.



Although I agree Strong was a good leader and captain, IMO I don't think there is a comparison. Sifers led by example, and by calling out his teamates. He played with a tremendous amount of emotion but used it a good way. He got his team up and going when they needed to. Sometimes a verbal lashing in the locker room, sometimes blocking a shot, ( and unlike Strong) sometimes by laying someone out at center ice. No one since has had that level of emotion and agression. One thing UVM has sorely lacked was someone who could line a guy up, lay a clean hit on them and make them spend the rest of the game keeping track of when and where he was on the ice.

Far away I think best captain goes to Sifers.

I'm sure grantfan thinks its Irwin though.
 
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If not grantfan then Barry Melrose. That guy could not get enough of Irwin in the TV broadcast on Sunday...

Melrose is horrible, the guy just has no clue. I like Irwin as a player he is above average and is an attribute to the team, but seriously I wonder sometimes if he isn't related to GrantFan....

The think that irked me with Melrose which has been brought up already was that UVM needed to keep the game choppy because they could keep it close with a much more talented UMA team. We all know UVM doesn't have a single flashy line like W-M-S but depth wise they are as deep as anyone. I don't know how that fool can make a comment like that......repeatedly. What a maroon. I would have like to asked him, if you took away the top two scorer's from each team at the begining of the playoffs, which team would you rather be coaching??

In any event, my rant on Melrose.

Looking forward to the upcoming weekend agaisnt ME.
 
Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

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1 cup dry red wine (cheapest: Whitehead table wine)
1/2 cup olive oil
1 onion chopped
6 cloves garlic crushed
1 sliced carrot
1 tbs.. dried tarragon, may want to half this as tarragon is strong salt and pepper adjust to your own taste

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and cover and refrigerate overnight turning often prior bedtime.
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Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

Black Bear Marinade
1 cup dry red wine (cheapest: Whitehead table wine)
OUCH! :eek:

I'm making the trek to Burlington this weekend for my first visit to the Gutt (for Hockey anyway). Haven't hung around Groovy You-Vee since my wife graduated back in the Dark Ages ('82). Other than Al's French Fries and Boves can anyone recommend good places to hang-out before, after, and between games?

I'll be in Section 15 if anyone wants to deliver face-to-face "abuse"!
 
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