rufus
rock and roller
Yep. Acting dept heads everywhere.
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116th Congress: F-cker WAS Impeached. Still not enough.
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Yep. Acting dept heads everywhere.
he seems pretty unhealthy, decent chance he kicks the bucket during a hypothetical Biden term.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Turtles live forever.
bronconick
Yep, still here
So does evil
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Even morbidly obese turtles on their back?
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Yeah, and Hoarse makes a great point. "Winning a D+30 district isn’t exactly the proof of concept for how to carry Missouri either."
We can rag on actual conservadems all we want. Until a cogent strategy for winning a D+25 district is put together, AOC, Trix, and the rest of the far left dems can sit the fuck down on this. I haven't seen a socialist dem win an R+20 seat despite the protestations from the proletariat.
Yes, progressive policies might be winners. But progressive politicians aren't the same.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Conservadems who trash liberals are just as wrongheaded as liberals who trash conservadems.
The difference is conservadems who trash liberals have the networks, the DNC, and its trained pundits hooting along with them.
My modest proposal is conservadems and liberals should join together when either is attacked from the outside, and then should shut up about each other except when they are in direct competition in a primary.
We need both, and when either slags the other they are being selfish.
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Kepler
Si certus es dubita
For god's sake, man, I'm standing right here. :-(
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I really liked this point about Katie porter
https://mobile.twitter.com/CorkusBucksuth/status/1324359440192151556
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
It's not as red as people make it out to be. Nor is she splitting tickets. That district has clearly gone blue.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Califo...ompetitiveness
It went for Feinstein twice, Boxer, and Obama. In 2016 it went for Clinton (+5) and Harris (+32). In 2018 it went almost straight blue except for Governor.
Porter took it by +7 this year. Biden took it by 9.3. So let's not pretend that Porter did anything unique or special. She's amazing. We need about a hundred more of her in the House. But it's not a good example of what a progressive candidate can do in a historically R district. Not without a sea change.
Edit: And the quip about her doubling her margin? BIden doubled Clinton's margin, so Porter's gains are entirely in line.
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Good pic showing how the more conservative Dems didn’t fare well
https://mobile.twitter.com/MaxKenner...84432763539456
https://mobile.twitter.com/MaxKenner...84432763539456
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
So what I'm hearing is, this woman in VA-7 who was screaming at the other reps in her caucus to shut-up about socialism should expect to be primaried in 2022. ;-)
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Mitch made a deal with the devil. He will die in office, but he could easily be running again in 2026 - he'll only be 84.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
This has been happening on both sides. The middle continues to hollow out. Biden is a (very healthy) anomaly.
MinnesotaNorthStar
Minding the gap
I think she is mostly right. The Dems need to educate the public on the differences between what they are proposing vs. actual socialism. Defund the police is also a loser and is what likely cost some suburban seats. Not because the ideas behind it are bad, but because the catchphrase allows the GOP to paint the picture that it means they just want to reduce the size of the police force without changing anything else.
Over the past few weeks down here in Texas I saw thousands of attack ads, most tieing Dem candidates to California/NY or Pelosi and AOC. My district (TX-24) is still close and counting, but it looks like Beth Van Duyne will win. Her campaign flooded the airwaves with ads targeting Candance Valenzuela's support of "defund the police" which I'm guessing resonated with the more affluent suburbs in the north part of the district.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1324881876201385984?s=20
WHat the fuck is AOC doing?
I know this chaps the ass of a lot of people, but I firmly believe LP deserves a some credit and thanks here. They were a cog in the larger machine and probably helped flip some % of Rs to vote against Trump.
WHat the fuck is AOC doing?
I know this chaps the ass of a lot of people, but I firmly believe LP deserves a some credit and thanks here. They were a cog in the larger machine and probably helped flip some % of Rs to vote against Trump.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
I think that's a flawed and extremely simplistic analysis by him. This is more a function of them being strangers in a strange land. Colin Peterson was an aberration. A DFLer isn't going to win that district, regardless of their platform or messaging, for 20+ years. They were holding on for the most part because of longevity and name recognition. Incumbents have had a massive advantage over the last 50 years. That's coming to an end as people hold career politicians in contempt.
I mean, c'mon. THis doesn't show anything.
Meanwhile, the data showing sincerely progressive candidates winning in R+20 districts...
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Yeah, fine. I get that. Don't necessarily disagree.
We barely eked out a win against a party of Nazis. The Nazis won pretty much every battle but three. Hey, great we wont those three!! But maybe let's wait to kill Stalin's army until after the Nazis are dead? Just a thought.
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