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115th Congress the final chapter: And Gerry Mander as the Speaker.

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bronconick said:
Eh, you have to keep Alaska if you're adding overseas territories as States. Merge the Dakotas and tape Idaho to Wyoming since we sold Montana.
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I'd prefer to keep Alaska and lose Wyoming, personally, but I was trying to keep a reasonable profile.
 
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Kepler said:
Yup. But when we add PR I want to add all our OCONUS territories, like France does. Say hello to 2 EV each for Puerto Rico, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands, and U.S. Virgin Islands, so we have to dump 4 more Empty States. You're movin' on up Idaho, both Dakotas, and Alaska.
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I'm a little surprised I haven't been seeing the occasional article discussing the possibility of DC statehood. A referendum was overwhelmingly approved in 2016, so what would stop the dems from moving on that if they were to take both houses of Congress and the White House in 2020 (the odds are probably pretty long at this point, but plausible)?
 
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GrinCDXX said:
I'm a little surprised I haven't been seeing the occasional article discussing the possibility of DC statehood. A referendum was overwhelmingly approved in 2016, so what would stop the dems from moving on that if they were to take both houses of Congress and the White House in 2020 (the odds are probably pretty long at this point, but plausible)?
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Comes up all the time locally. It'll happen the next time we have a sweep and a healthy majority of state houses. In other words, in about 6 years (when the GOP implodes) or never (once the GOP has completed their overthrow of democratic government).
 
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Kepler said:
Comes up all the time locally. It'll happen the next time we have a sweep and a healthy majority of state houses. In other words, in about 6 years (when the GOP implodes) or never (once the GOP has completed their overthrow of democratic government).
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I was under the impression that state houses wouldn't be relevant--that approval was entirely up to congress. Is that not correct?
 
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GrinCDXX said:
I was under the impression that state houses wouldn't be relevant--that approval was entirely up to congress. Is that not correct?
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I tried researching it. It's way more complicated than it should be.

I had it stuck in my head that a new state needed:

1. A successful referendum of all eligible voters in the territory, and
2a. A supermajority of the state legislatures or
2b. A supermajority of the Senate

But I could be wrong. I tried to find it and... it's not in one simple place that I found. Weird.
 
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Kepler said:
I tried researching it. It's way more complicated than it should be.

I had it stuck in my head that a new state needed:

1. A successful referendum
2a. A supermajority of the existing state legislatures or
2b. A supermajority of the Senate

But I could be wrong. I tried to find it and... it's not in one simple place that I found. Weird.
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My understanding has been that the constitution doesn't spell out the process beyond that it requires the approval of congress. I assume that would mean it's also up to each house to decide what level of approval would be needed. I'm sure there would be squealing from the GOP that it would need to be super majority, but personally I would be in favor of politely telling them to go **** themselves.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">McConnell threatens to block everything even if Trump loses in 2020: "If I'm still the majority leader in the Senate [in 2020], think of me as the Grim Reaper," McConnell told voters in Owensboro, Kentucky, on Monday. "None of that stuff is going to pass." <a href="https://t.co/QLOybNQJFj">https://t.co/QLOybNQJFj</a></p>— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/1130544634306945026?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 20, 2019</a></blockquote>
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ScoobyDoo said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">McConnell threatens to block everything even if Trump loses in 2020: "If I'm still the majority leader in the Senate [in 2020], think of me as the Grim Reaper," McConnell told voters in Owensboro, Kentucky, on Monday. "None of that stuff is going to pass." <a href="https://t.co/QLOybNQJFj">https://t.co/QLOybNQJFj</a></p>— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/1130544634306945026?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 20, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Well at least Myopic Mitch is consistent.
 
Kepler said:
I tried researching it. It's way more complicated than it should be.

I had it stuck in my head that a new state needed:

1. A successful referendum of all eligible voters in the territory, and
2a. A supermajority of the state legislatures or
2b. A supermajority of the Senate

But I could be wrong. I tried to find it and... it's not in one simple place that I found. Weird.
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Isn't it all covered in the Northwest Territories Act (or something with that name)??
 
ScoobyDoo said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">McConnell threatens to block everything even if Trump loses in 2020: "If I'm still the majority leader in the Senate [in 2020], think of me as the Grim Reaper," McConnell told voters in Owensboro, Kentucky, on Monday. "None of that stuff is going to pass." <a href="https://t.co/QLOybNQJFj">https://t.co/QLOybNQJFj</a></p>— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/1130544634306945026?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 20, 2019</a></blockquote>
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It’s ok, as Joe Biden told us, it’s just a phase that will end when Donald Trump is gone!
 
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The GOP isn't a political party, it's a terrorist organization. This is all we can expect of them which is why they need to be voted out from dog catcher to president.
 
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