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115th Congress: On Permanent Vacation

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Handyman said:
It is crazy...we could fund education for everyone at all levels on that kind of cash.

I was reading the Nazi Times ...err New York Times and this part really made me laugh...



Voodoo economics at its finest. Using the wrong numbers to try and prove things add up. (and even then they dont)

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Now admittedly I am not a math person...but .03 seems to significantly less than .4.

And this guy isnt some flaming liberal socialist...he was an Economic Adviser to flipping Dubya!
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Doesn't Trump like to brag about going to Wharton and being an Ivy Leaguer? Shouldn't he be reviewing his alma mater's study?

Oh that's right, the guy is a fraud who got in thanks to daddy's donations, then probably bribed the nerds to do his assignments for him.
 
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Handyman said:
Worked well in Oklahoma right? The amount of districts on 4 day weeks shouldnt scare anyone away from this amirite?

In ten years Canada will be able to buy us for pennies on the dollar! Better brush on your metric system eh ;)
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Ontario annexes Michigan and Manitoba annexes Minnesota. Let's do this! I'll draw up the papers for PM Trudeau to review by the middle of next week.
 
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trixR4kids said:
They want a tax cut for their billionaire donors, who will give them some cushy position once they leave office. It's not hard to understand, they're just greedy and greed runs this country, been true for at least 40 years.

Question I have, doesn't this bill need to be deficit neutral (I think that's the term) before it can be voted on? I know they're planning to gut certain programs etc. and there is other voodoo economics involved but how is that gonna be achieved exactly?
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According to what I read as long as it stays at $1.5 trillion dollars over 10 years they are fine. Anything beyond that and the Byrd Rule takes effect.

Good Article Here
 
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When they were told they couldn't get a trigger, did they instinctively start to yell about their 2nd Amendment rights?
 
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Just take money away from Medicare and Social Security, and be done with it. Make Dump's core voting base feel the pain. They need a good whipping.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Just take money away from Medicare and Social Security, and be done with it. Make Dump's core voting base feel the pain. They need a good whipping.
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I believe because they are doing it through Reconciliation they cannot touch Social Security or it violates the Byrd Rule.

Per the Vox article I linked earlier:

1. The provision must change federal spending or revenue.

2. If the bill does not meet the budget resolution’s instructions to reduce the federal deficit, any provision that results in either increased spending or decreased revenue is removed until it does meet those targets.

3. The provision must only affect policies that fall under the jurisdiction of the specific committees that were instructed in the budget resolution.

4, The provision’s effect on spending or revenues must be more than incidental to its policy impact.

5. The provision cannot increase the federal deficit at some point in the future, beyond the typical 10-year “budget window” that is used to evaluate legislation.

6. The provision cannot change Social Security.
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I told you all the triggers would be the undoing if anything did it. The more they have to fix the more problems it creates. They cant please everyone and the more they try to the more they alienate others. Same issue with the Health Care Bill...

Tomorrow could be fun no matter how it plays out :D

note: The Byrd Rule can be violated if the Parliamentarian allows it but my guess is the GOP knows that aint happening.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Republicans Senators are working hard to pass the biggest Tax Cuts in the history of our Country. The Bill is getting better and better. This is a once in a generation chance. Obstructionist Dems trying to block because they think it is too good and will not be given the credit!</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/936555753946705920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 1, 2017</a></blockquote>
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I know people who voted for him. I know people who support him. I don't get it.
 
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It is coming down to crunch time. According to CNN the GOP needs one of Flake, Collins or Corker to flip or the bill fails. Problem is to get Flake and Corker back they need to find a way to put back the money ($350 billion or so according to Lindsay Graham) they lost when the triggers were negated per Senate rules. Pretty much every idea they have (especially ones that have to do with Corporate Taxes) to replace that money will tick off others in the caucus.

Collins seems to only want to vote Yes if they help ObamaCare after the individual mandate is repealed. (along with state and local exemptions still allowed in specific situations) That would cause issues in Conference Committee since the House wants none of that.

This is going to be very very close.
 
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Handyman said:
It is coming down to crunch time. According to CNN the GOP needs one of Flake, Collins or Corker to flip or the bill fails.
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Who are the two sure no votes already then?

Edit: never mind, I misread your post.
 
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Handyman said:
It is coming down to crunch time. According to CNN the GOP needs one of Flake, Collins or Corker to flip or the bill fails. Problem is to get Flake and Corker back they need to find a way to put back the money ($350 billion or so according to Lindsay Graham) they lost when the triggers were negated per Senate rules. Pretty much every idea they have (especially ones that have to do with Corporate Taxes) to replace that money will tick off others in the caucus.

Collins seems to only want to vote Yes if they help ObamaCare after the individual mandate is repealed. (along with state and local exemptions still allowed in specific situations) That would cause issues in Conference Committee since the House wants none of that.

This is going to be very very close.
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Individual Mandate repeal is the destruction of Obamacare. Which, apparently, is morally repugnant.
 
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