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115th Congress: On Permanent Vacation

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There are advantages but not as many as you would think. But also remember not everyone knows what they are going to do when they go to college so they might already be pot committed ya know.

There is zero excuse for the rates colleges charge now. The Republican Wet Dream of for profit college is killing education at all levels.
I don't disagree that colleges charge too much but it's still possible to get out of school with a degree in whatever and not be a slave the rest of your life to student loans.

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I don't disagree that colleges charge too much but it's still possible to get out of school with a degree in whatever and not be a slave the rest of your life to student loans.

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They've ruined college though. It's supposed to be about discovery and finding yourself. Now it's about economics.
 
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They've ruined college though. It's supposed to be about discovery and finding yourself. Now it's about economics.
I thought it was about completing a task on your own, without teachers and parents riding herd

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I don't disagree that colleges charge too much but it's still possible to get out of school with a degree in whatever and not be a slave the rest of your life to student loans.

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If you’re a really good athlete at the right sport then maybe.
 
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I thought it was about completing a task on your own, without teachers and parents riding herd

That's just the ordinary animal training of late teens / early 20s. It has nothing to do with college, which is about being exposed to stuff way above your parents and your hometown, and being able to have a few years of thinking and exploring before being reduced to a mindless working drone.

College is about finding and encouraging intellectuals. Everything else can be handled by trade schools and the army. About 1000 times the number of people who belong in college go there purely for the status and credential.
 
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That's just the ordinary animal training of late teens / early 20s. It has nothing to do with college, which is about being exposed to stuff way above your parents and your hometown, and being able to have a few years of thinking and exploring before being reduced to a mindless working drone.

College is about finding and encouraging intellectuals. Everything else can be handled by trade schools and the army. About 1000 times the number of people who belong in college go there purely for the status and credential.
What's the current % of students who aspire to be intellectuals, 10? Probably less than that

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What's the current % of students who aspire to be intellectuals, 10? Probably less than that

Intellectual isn't a dirty word in every sub-culture. We could use a few more of them. The anti-intellectualism of the US led directly to Trump. They are the antibodies of a healthy political body.
 
There are advantages but not as many as you would think. But also remember not everyone knows what they are going to do when they go to college so they might already be pot committed ya know.

There is zero excuse for the rates colleges charge now. The Republican Wet Dream of for profit college is killing education at all levels.

That’s another reason why this tax plan is so insane. Literally ruining the future for everyone so some rich people get even richer right now.
Make it impossible to afford school, keep them stupid and keep them voting republican
 
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Intellectual isn't a dirty word in every sub-culture. We could use a few more of them. The anti-intellectualism of the US led directly to Trump. They are the antibodies of a healthy political body.
I think it's more likely an economy that left the working class out in the cold. They bought the BS that Trump was selling, draining the swamp, wall etc

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For Profit College predates Trump...but he and his party are trying to make it into the next bubble. This whole thing is going to explode soon because the economy cant take an entire generation being so in debt they are paralyzed from spending.
 
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For Profit College predates Trump...but he and his party are trying to make it into the next bubble. This whole thing is going to explode soon because the economy cant take an entire generation being so in debt they are paralyzed from spending.

Especially given how many hundreds of billions or dollars colleges are sitting on with their endowments. Almost certainly trillions.
 
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The same people who voted for Reagan and trickle-down 37 years ago. You reap what you sow.

so if trickle down didn't happen, robots and automation wouldn't have appeared? :confused:

What does David Stockman, the so-called Father of Reaganomics, have to say about this budget. About Reagan's tax bill, he said the following: "I mean, Kemp-Roth was always a Trojan horse to bring down the top rate.... It's kind of hard to sell 'trickle down.'"

I know he got in some trouble on Wall Street after leaving OMB, but is he getting any airtime with this budget?
 
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What does David Stockmen, the so-called Father of Reaganomics, have to say about this budget. About Reagan's tax bill, he said the following: "I mean, Kemp-Roth was always a Trojan horse to bring down the top rate.... It's kind of hard to sell 'trickle down.'"

I know he got in some trouble on Wall Street after leaving OMB, but is he getting any airtime with this budget?

Stockman has a column in the Daily Reckoning and they sometimes quote him on the usual biz sites. This is his assessment of The Heist:

So here’s the thing. Much of the benefit of the rate reductions built into the four new brackets will go to the very wealthy. That is, the 39.6% bracket starts at $471,000 under current law, but that would be raised to $1.0 million under the GOP plan.

At the end of the day, however, the whole contraption isn’t going to fly.

That because the three big breaks for the wealthy mentioned above plus net corporate tax reductions for the 20% rate, 100% expensing of new equipment and other items will cost $2.2 trillion over the next decade.

Yet the net cost of the GOP draft according to the joint tax committee is $1.49 trillion or the exact allowance in the FY 2018 budget resolution for a deficit-financed tax cut ($1.5 trillion).

And those are truly funny facts. The tax cut for the very wealthy and corporations in the GOP draft amounts to 147% of the net cut.

Everybody else is getting a $700 billion increase!

I have been saying for a long time that the GOP is barking up the wrong tree. The individual income tax has become a rich man’s levy with the top 4% of filers (6 million) paying 60% of the taxes, while the bottom 122 million pay just 13%.

Consequently, there is no way to square the circle — you can’t have a middle class tax cut when the middle class (households with incomes under say $125,000) pay less than 5% of their AGI in Federal income taxes.

The proper tax to cut is the payroll tax. Speaker Ryan’s median income family ($59,000) currently has $9,500 extracted to pay the employer and employee share — or 8X more than the $1,182 tax cut he was ballyhooing last week

Needless to say, I don’t think the corporate rate cut will generate much incremental domestic investment, jobs or wages because companies mainly go abroad due to dramatically lower labor costs, supply chain logistics and customer market propinquity, not the statutory tax rate.

So the overwhelming share of the $1.46 trillion tax reduction owing to the 20% corporate rate will go into dividends and share buybacks — which is to say the top 1% and 10% of households which own most of the financial assets.

The net of it, of course, is that future generations are being bushwhacked with $1.5 trillion of additional public debt in order to indulge a tiny fraction of taxpayers with several trillions of tax cuts and shareholder returns that they don’t really need.

tl; dr: Suckers.
 
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What does David Stockman, the so-called Father of Reaganomics, have to say about this budget. About Reagan's tax bill, he said the following: "I mean, Kemp-Roth was always a Trojan horse to bring down the top rate.... It's kind of hard to sell 'trickle down.'"

I know he got in some trouble on Wall Street after leaving OMB, but is he getting any airtime with this budget?

hey, mookie woulda raised taxes yesterday if he was king. but these silly arguments bury the lede :)
 
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