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0 Days Since Last Shooting: Reset The Calendar Again

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Here is why this whole thing is a bad idea, it will take less than two years before a teacher "fears for their life" in a bad neighborhood and shoots a student.

Or another teacher also keen on playing Rambo, when they startle each other coming around a corner looking for the shooter during an active incident.
 
So we should double down and put more weapons in schools? You have any idea how much the insurance will skyrocket WITHOUT an incident just cause the potential went up exponentially? mookie even if you are trolling that was a weaksauce effort.

Here is why this whole thing is a bad idea, it will take less than two years before a teacher "fears for their life" in a bad neighborhood and shoots a student.

Mookie was friggin’ making your point!!
 
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Perhaps all involved in this thread should read "Behold a Pale Horse" by Milton William Cooper.
 
Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Reset The Calendar Again

Perhaps all involved in this thread should read "Behold a Pale Horse" by Milton William Cooper.

Better yet all involved in this thread should read Pale Horse Coming. Great story even if you don't have a gun fetish, but if you do you might have to hide this book under your bed for later.
 
I've also seen violent video games, "being soft on discipline," and abortion blamed.

Soft on discipline just means we can't beat the **** out of kids anymore.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The somber protests lasted only a few minutes "in order to symbolize how quickly someone, such as the Parkland shooter, is able to purchase a gun in America," the teen organizers wrote. <a href="https://t.co/3nlv27Q5fH">https://t.co/3nlv27Q5fH</a></p>— NPR (@NPR) <a href="https://twitter.com/NPR/status/965700017435693056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Anyone who thinks the latest school shooting changed minds is fooling themselves. While I love the spirit and resolve of the teenagers in Florida and elsewhere who are vowing to make change happen, I also feel sorry for them. They are about to discover that politicians of all stripes are even more cowardly than all but the most pessimistic among us already know and believe. This isn't the 1960s anymore when there were still enough people in power who could be moved by something other than a campaign check when young people mobilized. Before these brave, open minded and hopeful high school students can complete their March 14th protests all over the country, there will be probably be another mass shooting, maybe even at another school. We don't do it with explosive vests strapped to our chests and under some horribly twisted notion of religion like in far too many other places but we're every bit like those parts of the world where simply going to the market on any given afternoon might leave dozens of us dead. I weep for the innocent lives shattered. It's too bad these killings go on and on and on and on. Perhaps if one happens within the halls of congress, and the dozens dead include nothing but the cowards currently in office, something will finally change. Short of that, nothing really will. This has become our way of life and the price we pay for our "freedom."
 
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Anyone who thinks the latest school shooting changed minds is fooling themselves. While I love the spirit and resolve of the teenagers in Florida and elsewhere who are vowing to make change happen, I also feel sorry for them. They are about to discover that politicians of all stripes are even more cowardly than all but the most pessimistic among us already know and believe. This isn't the 1960s anymore when there were still enough people in power who could be moved by something other than a campaign check when young people mobilized. Before these brave, open minded and hopeful high school students can complete their March 14th protests all over the country, there will be probably be another mass shooting, maybe even at another school. We don't do it with explosive vests strapped to our chests and under some horribly twisted notion of religion like in far too many other places but we're every bit like those parts of the world where simply going to the market on any given afternoon might leave dozens of us dead. I weep for the innocent lives shattered. It's too bad these killings go on and on and on and on. Perhaps if one happens within the halls of congress, and the dozens dead include nothing but the cowards currently in office, something will finally change. Short of that, nothing really will. This has become our way of life and the price we pay for our "freedom."

If Steve Scalise hasn't changed his mind then no one will.
 
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If Steve Scalise hasn't changed his mind then no one will.

I heard a number of interviews of loved ones from the Las Vegas shooting -- loved ones of people who were wounded and of those who lost their lives -- who were not inclined to think more gun control was the answer or the problem was too many guns in the country.

For me, when nothing changed after Newtown I knew nothing ever would. How anyone can imagine -- even for 1 second -- a bunch of 6 and 7 year old kids being gunned down and not voting out every last person who stood in the way of even the most inconsequential attempts at some common sense gun control is incomprehensible.

Yet here we are, years later. I really do wish and hope there is a Hell. Not necessarily for the Lanzas or the Cruzes of the world, but for the politicians that take the blood money that makes it possible for so many of the Lanzas and the Cruzes to find it so easy to kill dozens in just a minute or two. Every politician who said something along the line of "now is not the time for politicizing this latest mass shooting" in the wake of the latest mass shooting should rot in hell for a thousand eternities.
 
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The "good guy with a gun" myth has taken hold with a large portion of society, even among people who are not normally gung-ho when it comes to guns and the NRA.

Like most of the narratives the NRA would have you believe, the "good guy with a gun" is a wildly inaccurate fantasy. One study by the RAND corporation showed that over a nearly 10-year period, New York City police officers missed their targets the vast majority of the time. The hit rate was just 30% when the suspect was NOT returning fire, and an astoundingly minuscule 18% of the time if the suspect WAS returning fire. How many people out there think the average citizen would be any better than a supposedly "highly trained" cop?

Of course this is based on empirical data and a highly organized, scientific study. Which means today's NRA member and 95% of the republican party would judge it as dubious as best, and likely fake.

The good guy with a gun isn't so much a myth as it is a simplistic solution to a highly complex situation. Sure, a good guy with a gun can stop something like this before it starts, but it's naive to think that it may not also make things worse. It also depends on who the good guy with the gun is. Someone who goes to the range every other day for a couple hours and practices is probably more likely to have a better outcome than someone who doesn't (including cops who don't train with their firearms as often as they should).

We are better off trying to prevent an active shooter scenario, than relying on a good guy with a gun to stop it. I believe here in Indiana we have one of the highest, if not the highest, rate of CCW holders in the country and it is still only at 16% or so.
 
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Has anybody in here contacted their congressman? Have you heard back? I wrote mine the morning after Stoneman. All I've heard from him since was an autoreply.
Now he may be busy answering many emails like mine, but I doubt it.
 
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Has anybody in here contacted their congressman? Have you heard back? I wrote mine the morning after Stoneman. All I've heard from him since was an autoreply.
Now he may be busy answering many emails like mine, but I doubt it.

Did you remember to include the check for $300,000?
 
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I lived close to Neosho for several years in my 20s. Ozark/fringe Okie . . . Beautiful country and warm people, but the rednecks are REDNECKS.

FTL and get away. It's the only solution.
 
Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Reset The Calendar Again

Has anybody in here contacted their congressman? Have you heard back? I wrote mine the morning after Stoneman. All I've heard from him since was an autoreply.
Now he may be busy answering many emails like mine, but I doubt it.

I snail-mailed him a note with the Scalia quote from Heller that 2A isn't unlimited, along with a check for Thoughts & Prayers.
 
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