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0 Days Since Last Shooting: Guns, Guns, And More Guns
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Not reading the bill is what West Virginia did tonight
Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Guns, Guns, And More Guns
I doubt I'm any less cynical than you, Brent, but "they all do it" is a cop out. There are huge differences between these two parties right now, and those differences matter.
I doubt I'm any less cynical than you, Brent, but "they all do it" is a cop out. There are huge differences between these two parties right now, and those differences matter.
busterman62
I got a pocket full of kryptonite
Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Guns, Guns, And More Guns
Let's see you try and out-cynical that one
The difference comes down to "the letter C". One is Overt & One is Covert.
Let's see you try and out-cynical that one
Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Guns, Guns, And More Guns
No meaningful difference in degree? To use a sloppy metaphor: All autism is the same, regardless of where the patient falls on the spectrum?
No meaningful difference in degree? To use a sloppy metaphor: All autism is the same, regardless of where the patient falls on the spectrum?
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Handyman
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busterman62
I got a pocket full of kryptonite
Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Guns, Guns, And More Guns
Of course there is a difference in degree. My post was trying be as cynical as possible. However.........let's not kid ourselves here. Just because the Rs have turned corruption into an art form the Ds did not become saints. The lesser of two evils is still evil. The highly functioning autistic is still autistic.
Of course there is a difference in degree. My post was trying be as cynical as possible. However.........let's not kid ourselves here. Just because the Rs have turned corruption into an art form the Ds did not become saints. The lesser of two evils is still evil. The highly functioning autistic is still autistic.
Slap Shot
I got nothing
This is sadly true.
It's meaningless you meant.
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Although you may be right on both Ds and Rs sucking up to special interests.
I think you misrepresent the outcomes engineered by the two parties. The Ds have largely still done what's best for the majority of the people of this country - and based on the Obama and Clinton administrations do not overly hose either the rich or business. The Ds happen to side with special interests in also supporting interests of the American people - while the Rs side with special interests to deliver great outcomes for special interests. In terms of integrity of outcomes, the two parties cannot be compared.
Although you may be right on both Ds and Rs sucking up to special interests.
I think you misrepresent the outcomes engineered by the two parties. The Ds have largely still done what's best for the majority of the people of this country - and based on the Obama and Clinton administrations do not overly hose either the rich or business. The Ds happen to side with special interests in also supporting interests of the American people - while the Rs side with special interests to deliver great outcomes for special interests. In terms of integrity of outcomes, the two parties cannot be compared.
Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Guns, Guns, And More Guns
Follow up on the gun seizure in Vadnais Heights:
http://kstp.com/news/families-give-...vadnais-heights-weapon-seizure/4812122/?cat=1
Mark Stowe confirmed the family has many guns and said they are part of a collection. He said most of them are unloaded and are kept in safes.
Um........I think Mr Stowe needs to not be owning guns.
Follow up on the gun seizure in Vadnais Heights:
http://kstp.com/news/families-give-...vadnais-heights-weapon-seizure/4812122/?cat=1
Mark Stowe confirmed the family has many guns and said they are part of a collection. He said most of them are unloaded and are kept in safes.
Um........I think Mr Stowe needs to not be owning guns.
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I asked the questions because the "They both do it" lament is used in different contexts. Some use it as a conclusion, a passive defense of conduct they do not want to defend directly. Used that way, it adds nothing to the discussion, since it just states the obvious. "There is corruption on both sides of the aisle" adds nothing to the discussion unless it is followed by a discussion of specifics applicable to the issue at hand. Saying that high functioning autistic is still autistic does nothing to help determine which social situations we should place any one autistic in and under what circumstances.
I don't recall enough of your past posts to know what you meant by your post, buster, so I may be out of line. But it seemed to be a form of false equivalency--an attempt to lump all sinners together. That is increasingly commonplace these days, and it is a very easy but dangerous way for people to avoid exercising judgment.
I asked the questions because the "They both do it" lament is used in different contexts. Some use it as a conclusion, a passive defense of conduct they do not want to defend directly. Used that way, it adds nothing to the discussion, since it just states the obvious. "There is corruption on both sides of the aisle" adds nothing to the discussion unless it is followed by a discussion of specifics applicable to the issue at hand. Saying that high functioning autistic is still autistic does nothing to help determine which social situations we should place any one autistic in and under what circumstances.
I don't recall enough of your past posts to know what you meant by your post, buster, so I may be out of line. But it seemed to be a form of false equivalency--an attempt to lump all sinners together. That is increasingly commonplace these days, and it is a very easy but dangerous way for people to avoid exercising judgment.
busterman62
I got a pocket full of kryptonite
Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Guns, Guns, And More Guns
I was simply trying to point out that I agreed with Brent. Both sides ARE bad. One side being worse does not make the other good and deserving our praise (or more importantly, our vote). Hell, I've been voting the lesser of two evils for longer than many here have been alive. That being said, at some point (11/16), it reaches at point where the lesser of the two evils is evil enough that I can't accept it.
How can you not recall my past posts? Is it because my career output of posts is a bad week for some here?
I was simply trying to point out that I agreed with Brent. Both sides ARE bad. One side being worse does not make the other good and deserving our praise (or more importantly, our vote). Hell, I've been voting the lesser of two evils for longer than many here have been alive. That being said, at some point (11/16), it reaches at point where the lesser of the two evils is evil enough that I can't accept it.
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I'll defend burd here. A couple posts here and there are not enough to understand a poster's style, personality, views overall, etc.
I'll defend burd here. A couple posts here and there are not enough to understand a poster's style, personality, views overall, etc.
If you were to ask someone, “would you rather have autism on the mild end of the spectrum or the severe end of the spectrum,” most people will respond, “I’d rather not have it at all.” And that’s why fringe candidates can get elected.
busterman62
I got a pocket full of kryptonite
Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Guns, Guns, And More Guns
Sorry. A poor attempt at joking. (and proving your point at the same time)
Sorry. A poor attempt at joking. (and proving your point at the same time)
Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Guns, Guns, And More Guns
True. And if you were to tell someone "you will have autism on either the mild or the severe end of the spectrum but you must choose," and they refuse to choose, claiming all forms of autism are alike--that is another way fringe candidates can get elected.
What is much more likely, of course, is that the person who is given the choice cannot choose mild autism because requires him to change a preexisting belief, so he justifies his choice by claiming that all degrees of autism are alike and that it makes no difference which choice he makes.
edit: OK, I guess I've beaten the autistic horse death.
True. And if you were to tell someone "you will have autism on either the mild or the severe end of the spectrum but you must choose," and they refuse to choose, claiming all forms of autism are alike--that is another way fringe candidates can get elected.
What is much more likely, of course, is that the person who is given the choice cannot choose mild autism because requires him to change a preexisting belief, so he justifies his choice by claiming that all degrees of autism are alike and that it makes no difference which choice he makes.
edit: OK, I guess I've beaten the autistic horse death.
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rufus
rock and roller
Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Guns, Guns, And More Guns
Trump's backing off only in the sense that his views reflect only the views of the last person or group he meets with. As I think it was Handy who said, he's a leaf in the wind.
Trump's backing off only in the sense that his views reflect only the views of the last person or group he meets with. As I think it was Handy who said, he's a leaf in the wind.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Guns, Guns, And More Guns
That was Wash.
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That was Wash.
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FlagDUDE08
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Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Guns, Guns, And More Guns
You know what I find funny? People keep talking about R's liking guns and D's not. Wasn't it just a few months ago that BLM were wanting to arm themselves to defend against their opposition? Doesn't Antifa, which was pretty much created as a response to Trump's election, wish to be armed to defend against their opposition? And now, all of a sudden, you want to make yourselves defenseless because of one incident heavily played up in the media?
Talk about easily manipulated.
You know what I find funny? People keep talking about R's liking guns and D's not. Wasn't it just a few months ago that BLM were wanting to arm themselves to defend against their opposition? Doesn't Antifa, which was pretty much created as a response to Trump's election, wish to be armed to defend against their opposition? And now, all of a sudden, you want to make yourselves defenseless because of one incident heavily played up in the media?
Talk about easily manipulated.
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