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0 Days Since Last Shooting: But the Second Amendment!

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The Sicatoka said:
Kids killing and being killed.
Seems they're picking what's available.
Times ain't great in London where they have tough firearms laws.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/knife-violence-hits-younger-teens-ever-london-n863941
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Sorry to pile on late.

But its because gun-controlled New York's murder rate has plummeted. For a city with comparable size, New York murders have crashed to 11 in February and 23 in March. London ended with just 15 in February and 22 in March. Last year, St. Louis (population of 315 thousand) had 199 murders. London (population of 8.8 million at about 25x the pop of St. Louis) had 130 murders.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-43628494
 
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Over under on the number of mass shootings (as defined by the New York times -- 4 or more shot in a single event) between now and November 6th 2018? I say 190.

This ain't ever gonna end, people. Well, it will end the people that get killed in mass shootings. All those Parkland kids are gonna wonder about all the stories their grandparents told them of how back in the 1960s, teenagers and young adults in college were a force that changed the world. They're going to think grampy and gam-gam have gone senile, because they are going to wonder why their action today change very little. What we've seen, like the actions in Florida in the days after the Parkland shooting, are all she is going to write.

Unless we see a wave of new legislators the likes of which we've never seen. If thinking people show up at the polls and vote for a real change, maybe, just maybe, something more will be done.

Sadly, we don't even enforce well the laws that are already on the books. People like the Waffle House shooter's dad. People who attempt to take weapons onto planes "mistakenly." Felons who attempt to possess a firearm in violation of the terms and conditions of their release. We don't prosecute these kinds of people because if some D.A out there was prosecuting as aggressively as he or she could every last gun law on the books, they probably realize they would eventually be a target of the NRA as an over-zealous and over-reaching liberal politician who is grandstanding and not enforcing.

So we're probably not going to effectively change the laws or enforce what we already can anytime soon. As Brian Kelly reminds me as I yearn for the days when an 8-5 season represented abject failure, we should all just Get Used To It.
 
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It will end when we just get tired of the NRA talking points and stop listening to the poor saps who regurgitate them, and do what needs to be done.

Until then, Wayne Robert LaPierre et al have the blood of those murders on their hands. And all that matters to them, the blood of those murders in their bank accounts.

These are the slave owners of the 21st century.
 
WeAreNDHockey said:
Over under on the number of mass shootings (as defined by the New York times -- 4 or more shot in a single event) between now and November 6th 2018? I say 190.

This ain't ever gonna end, people. Well, it will end the people that get killed in mass shootings. All those Parkland kids are gonna wonder about all the stories their grandparents told them of how back in the 1960s, teenagers and young adults in college were a force that changed the world. They're going to think grampy and gam-gam have gone senile, because they are going to wonder why their action today change very little. What we've seen, like the actions in Florida in the days after the Parkland shooting, are all she is going to write.

Unless we see a wave of new legislators the likes of which we've never seen. If thinking people show up at the polls and vote for a real change, maybe, just maybe, something more will be done.

Sadly, we don't even enforce well the laws that are already on the books. People like the Waffle House shooter's dad. People who attempt to take weapons onto planes "mistakenly." Felons who attempt to possess a firearm in violation of the terms and conditions of their release. We don't prosecute these kinds of people because if some D.A out there was prosecuting as aggressively as he or she could every last gun law on the books, they probably realize they would eventually be a target of the NRA as an over-zealous and over-reaching liberal politician who is grandstanding and not enforcing.

So we're probably not going to effectively change the laws or enforce what we already can anytime soon. As Brian Kelly reminds me as I yearn for the days when an 8-5 season represented abject failure, we should all just Get Used To It.
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We really need to lock up people like Bill Russell and Barry Switzer.
 
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SJHovey said:
It's Tennessee. You shoot up a Waffle House with an AK-47, rocking "the Donald Duck," you tend to blend in.


Edit: He's been captured
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Is that your line? Because it’s brilliant.
 
Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: But the Second Amendment!

Question: Has anyone here attended a major NRA convention? What's the security like?
 
Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: But the Second Amendment!

WeAreNDHockey said:
Over under on the number of mass shootings (as defined by the New York times -- 4 or more shot in a single event) between now and November 6th 2018? I say 190.

This ain't ever gonna end, people. Well, it will end the people that get killed in mass shootings. All those Parkland kids are gonna wonder about all the stories their grandparents told them of how back in the 1960s, teenagers and young adults in college were a force that changed the world. They're going to think grampy and gam-gam have gone senile, because they are going to wonder why their action today change very little. What we've seen, like the actions in Florida in the days after the Parkland shooting, are all she is going to write.

Unless we see a wave of new legislators the likes of which we've never seen. If thinking people show up at the polls and vote for a real change, maybe, just maybe, something more will be done.

Sadly, we don't even enforce well the laws that are already on the books. People like the Waffle House shooter's dad. People who attempt to take weapons onto planes "mistakenly." Felons who attempt to possess a firearm in violation of the terms and conditions of their release. We don't prosecute these kinds of people because if some D.A out there was prosecuting as aggressively as he or she could every last gun law on the books, they probably realize they would eventually be a target of the NRA as an over-zealous and over-reaching liberal politician who is grandstanding and not enforcing.

So we're probably not going to effectively change the laws or enforce what we already can anytime soon. As Brian Kelly reminds me as I yearn for the days when an 8-5 season represented abject failure, we should all just Get Used To It.
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This is so key. So key. For real. THIS is what we really need to start doing, along with some tweaks to the current laws.
 
Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: But the Second Amendment!

So out of the last 20 mass shootings, how many have been preventable using laws on the books?
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
So out of the last 20 mass shootings, how many have been preventable using laws on the books?
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The last one, IMO for sure. With tweaks that I would like to see done? A few more (the whole mental health thing).
 
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SJHovey said:
I think that’s a fairly common phrase for someone walking around with a shirt but no pants. I think there might even be a comedian who has a bit on it, but I don’t recall who.
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It's called the Winnie the Pooh if you're an SNL fan.

"Just shirt no pants like Winnie the Pooh."
 
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unofan said:
It's called the Winnie the Pooh if you're an SNL fan.

"Just shirt no pants like Winnie the Pooh."
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Which is the exact opposite of most Looney Toons. They always have pants, but rarely a shirt.
 
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Brenthoven said:
The last one, IMO for sure. With tweaks that I would like to see done? A few more (the whole mental health thing).
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So the laws were inadequate. How do you prevent it from happening in the first place?
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
So the laws were inadequate. How do you prevent it from happening in the first place?
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Illinois keeping the guns in the first place, per their laws, in this case. They failed to fully enforce the law, IMO.

The father should be charged with accessory (or whatever applicable charge can be brought) in this murder case. This is the stuff that drives me nuts. "Hey, I'll just give my mentally ill kid some guns." ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

This type of thing is the FIRST step to better gun control. Enforce that stuff with all the might.
 
Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: But the Second Amendment!

What would enforcing the laws here have done to prevent the mass shooting?
 
Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: But the Second Amendment!

They were required to give the dad the guns from all reports I’ve read.
 
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