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UMass Lowell 2025-2026: Youth will be served

ScottK said:
Undrafted players who played for Norm that eventually played in the NHL:
Christian Folin
Chad Ruhwedel
Joe Gambardella
C.J. Smith
Michael Kapla
Kevin Boyle
Lucas Condotta
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Well, it certainly helps if your undrafted players have the ability to put up 50+ points in a season like Smith and Gambardella, or at least 30 like Kapla. These days, we're lucky to have one guy a year score over 20 points. We haven't had anyone hit 30 in almost 10 years now I believe, drafted or not
 
UMLFan said:
4 seasons where they went 0-13, 0-12, 4-9 and 2-10 (this last season). Not exactly leaving on a positive note with a 6-44 record (12%).

That program just hasn't worked at Lowell. No matter the coach.
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This guy gets it Scott now is now not when I played take off the blinders
 
Will said:
Well, it certainly helps if your undrafted players have the ability to put up 50+ points in a season like Smith and Gambardella, or at least 30 like Kapla. These days, we're lucky to have one guy a year score over 20 points. We haven't had anyone hit 30 in almost 10 years now I believe, drafted or not
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Congratulations on commenting about half of my point while ignoring the other part. You know, that part about all those great draft picks who did absolutely nothing? Seth Barton was the 2nd highest draft pick in program history - 3rd round, 81st overall. 83 games, 7 goals, 29 assists, and a -1 overall in his 3 years in Lowell.

BTW, Condotta 52 points total, 23 in his senior year. Kapla only hit 30 as a senior. Folin had 21 and 20. Ruhwedel never topped 25. So your 30 point argument doesn't hold a lot of water either.
 
ScottK said:
Congratulations on commenting about half of my point while ignoring the other part. You know, that part about all those great draft picks who did absolutely nothing? Seth Barton was the 2nd highest draft pick in program history - 3rd round, 81st overall. 83 games, 7 goals, 29 assists, and a -1 overall in his 3 years in Lowell.

BTW, Condotta 52 points total, 23 in his senior year. Kapla only hit 30 as a senior. Folin had 21 and 20. Ruhwedel never topped 25. So your 30 point argument doesn't hold a lot of water either.
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I am not, and never was, arguing that draft picks are some telltale sign of a great team, or that drafted players pan out at a high rate compared to undrafted players. I'm simply stating that we haven't had enough scoring on our team in recent years to be competing for the Hockey East championship.

When I said "We haven't had anyone hit 30 in almost 10 years now I believe, drafted or not", I am simultaneously acknowledging your point that our draft picks have not always done much in the name of scoring.

Players making the NHL is nice for the program and staff, but competing for the Hockey East championship matters much more to me personally.

As for my 30-point scorer argument? Well, I think that has all the stats in the world to back it up. In the league's history, there has been one champion that has not had multiple 30-point scorers on their roster, except for the abbreviated COVID season. That was us in 2014, with arguably the greatest goalie in net helping keep us in it.

2026: Merrimack: 37-35-35
2025: Maine: 32-30-29
2024: Boston College 71-65-60
2023: Boston University 64-49-36
2022: UMass 49-33-31
2021: UMass 34-27-24 (shortened season for COVID)
2020: Boston College (regular season champion, no tourney due to COVID): 42-42-39
2019: Northeastern: 37-31-31
2018: BU: 35-35-32
2017: UMass Lowell: 52-51-39
2016: NEU: 43-42-35
2015: BU: 71-61-50
2014: UML: 30-23-22
2013: UML: 38-38-30
2012: BC: 45-44-40
2011: BC: 52-51-33
2010: BC: 53-50-45
2009: BU: 55-50-48
2008: BC: 68-51-50
2007: BC: 53-47-46
2006: BU: 39-36-32
2005: BC: 48-45-28
2004: Maine: 44-40-33
2003: New Hampshire: 51-47-30
2002: New Hampshire: 76-66-45
2001: BC: 54-50-49
2000: Maine: 51-37-36
1999: BC: 60-57-49
1998: BC: 73-62-49
1997: BU: 62-39-35
1996: Providence: 37-36-35
1995: BU: 56-55-52
1994: BU: 54-44-42
1993: Maine: 100-95-85
1992: Maine: 65-57-56
1991: BU: 82-68-61
1990: BC: 72-63-53
1989: Maine: 67-62-49
1988: NEU: 47-47-39
1987: BC: 83-70-66
1986: BU: 74-62-38
1985: PC: 73-50-49
 
Will said:
I am not, and never was, arguing that draft picks are some telltale sign of a great team, or that drafted players pan out at a high rate compared to undrafted players. I'm simply stating that we haven't had enough scoring on our team in recent years to be competing for the Hockey East championship.

When I said "We haven't had anyone hit 30 in almost 10 years now I believe, drafted or not", I am simultaneously acknowledging your point that our draft picks have not always done much in the name of scoring.

Players making the NHL is nice for the program and staff, but competing for the Hockey East championship matters much more to me personally.

As for my 30-point scorer argument? Well, I think that has all the stats in the world to back it up. In the league's history, there has been one champion that has not had multiple 30-point scorers on their roster, except for the abbreviated COVID season. That was us in 2014, with arguably the greatest goalie in net helping keep us in it.

2026: Merrimack: 37-35-35
2025: Maine: 32-30-29
2024: Boston College 71-65-60
2023: Boston University 64-49-36
2022: UMass 49-33-31
2021: UMass 34-27-24 (shortened season for COVID)
2020: Boston College (regular season champion, no tourney due to COVID): 42-42-39
2019: Northeastern: 37-31-31
2018: BU: 35-35-32
2017: UMass Lowell: 52-51-39
2016: NEU: 43-42-35
2015: BU: 71-61-50
2014: UML: 30-23-22
2013: UML: 38-38-30
2012: BC: 45-44-40
2011: BC: 52-51-33
2010: BC: 53-50-45
2009: BU: 55-50-48
2008: BC: 68-51-50
2007: BC: 53-47-46
2006: BU: 39-36-32
2005: BC: 48-45-28
2004: Maine: 44-40-33
2003: New Hampshire: 51-47-30
2002: New Hampshire: 76-66-45
2001: BC: 54-50-49
2000: Maine: 51-37-36
1999: BC: 60-57-49
1998: BC: 73-62-49
1997: BU: 62-39-35
1996: Providence: 37-36-35
1995: BU: 56-55-52
1994: BU: 54-44-42
1993: Maine: 100-95-85
1992: Maine: 65-57-56
1991: BU: 82-68-61
1990: BC: 72-63-53
1989: Maine: 67-62-49
1988: NEU: 47-47-39
1987: BC: 83-70-66
1986: BU: 74-62-38
1985: PC: 73-50-49
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Seeing Paul Kariya's 100 points in 1993 is truly insane, lol
 
ScottK said:
Congratulations on commenting about half of my point while ignoring the other part. You know, that part about all those great draft picks who did absolutely nothing? Seth Barton was the 2nd highest draft pick in program history - 3rd round, 81st overall. 83 games, 7 goals, 29 assists, and a -1 overall in his 3 years in Lowell.

BTW, Condotta 52 points total, 23 in his senior year. Kapla only hit 30 as a senior. Folin had 21 and 20. Ruhwedel never topped 25. So your 30 point argument doesn't hold a lot of water either.
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Scott, take the time to see what other teams don’t have a 30+ point scorer in the same time frame as Lowell and tell me with a straight face it’s not concerning company.
 
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