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The States 2: States Rights for Me But Not for Thee

Jimjamesak said:
Yeah, there’s definitely a negative view towards alcohol and it’s especially true in the rural areas. Alaska has some of the strictest alcohol laws in the country, highlights include:

All alcohol has to be sold in a separate store, no beer and wine in the grocery store.

Any area where alcohol is being served has to be completely separated and access restricted to people of legal age (unless accompanied by a parent). This means sporting events and concerts have to have separate “wet” and “dry” sections.

Communities can ban alcohol if they wish. Dry villages are a thing (and so is bootlegging).

And that’s just the stuff off the top of my head.
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I think PA is the same on the separate store law. Maybe it's a little different on beer vs liquor, but everyone I've talked to who has lived in PA says it's a PITA.

The wet/dry sections would actually be nice to have at events. When MSU started selling alcohol they had separate lines for beer, and the lines went fast. This year they got a new concession vendor and got rid of the beer-only lines. It's a very first-world problem, but waiting behind a family of four all getting food and drinks is annoying when you're just trying to get a single beer.

Are city-by-city blue laws not the norm? I think all of the ones in Michigan have finally given in, but I figured any town in the country could ban it if they wanted.
 
Kepler said:
How much of that was/is driven by "drunken Eskimo" racism?

Other places I know that come down hard on DD: NM and OK. Entirely coincidentally, they have the second-highest and third-highest native population percentages. After... Alaska.
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I would be lying if I said that wasn’t a factor but a lot of Alaska’s strict alcohol regulations come from rural area lawmakers, much to the chagrin of urban lawmakers and business owners.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
I think PA is the same on the separate store law. Maybe it's a little different on beer vs liquor, but everyone I've talked to who has lived in PA says it's a PITA.

The wet/dry sections would actually be nice to have at events. When MSU started selling alcohol they had separate lines for beer, and the lines went fast. This year they got a new concession vendor and got rid of the beer-only lines. It's a very first-world problem, but waiting behind a family of four all getting food and drinks is annoying when you're just trying to get a single beer.

Are city-by-city blue laws not the norm? I think all of the ones in Michigan have finally given in, but I figured any town in the country could ban it if they wanted.
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The wet/dry is absolute pain in the ass, especially if you’re a teenager wanting to go to events and you literally are restricted from areas like say floor level at a concert. Even as an adult I hate it.

I would stress that the dry villages are not like places with blue laws. In dry villages it’s not just the sale of alcohol that’s banned, it’s illegal to even possess alcohol there.
 
Jimjamesak said:
The wet/dry is absolute pain in the ass, especially if you’re a teenager wanting to go to events and you literally are restricted from areas like say floor level at a concert. Even as an adult I hate it.

I would stress that the dry villages are not like places with blue laws. In dry villages it’s not just the sale of alcohol that’s banned, it’s illegal to even possess alcohol there.
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I thought you just meant a separate line. Yes, having an entire section blocked off is excessive.

And I would not have expected literal possession to be illegal. That's wild. Seems like the cost of import would be prohibitive enough that you could ban sales and reduce the supply enough.
 
I know IL used to be wet/dry because Evanston was dry leading Northwestern students to all drive drunk from the next county. Clever law-making, there.

PA had (has?) Staties and, ahem, "private clubs," but they have dry towns too? Is it an Amish thing?

Do Dearborn or any other celebrated Muzzie towns try to go dry, as part of their undoubted attempt to PUT ALL AMERIKA UNDER SHARIA!!11!11 I'm sure that would go over real well.
 
Jimjamesak said:
In dry villages it’s not just the sale of alcohol that’s banned, it’s illegal to even possess alcohol there.
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I had no idea that was a thing. That's Constitutional? Don't adults have the right to get drunk? I mean shit Ben Franklin where were you, asleep?

Edit: TIL Ben Franklin wanted to annex Canada.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
I thought you just meant a separate line. Yes, having an entire section blocked off is excessive.
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Yeah, it’s an entire area and it doesn’t matter if you’re purchasing alcohol or not, to even enter the section you have to present ID. It fucking sucks.

The Aces used to have the majority of the arena as “wet” so if you were under age you were confined to a certain side of seating. Concerts are the same way, some concerts are just straight up 21+ only.
 
Kepler said:
I know IL used to be wet/dry because Evanston was dry leading Northwestern students to all drive drunk from the next county. Clever law-making, there.

PA had (has?) Staties and, ahem, "private clubs," but they have dry towns too? Is it an Amish thing?

Do Dearborn or any other celebrated Muzzie towns try to go dry, as part of their undoubted attempt to PUT ALL AMERIKA UNDER SHARIA!!11!11 I'm sure that would go over real well.
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I believe there are dry counties in Kentucky and Tennessee. I remember seeing a story about a bar that was on the county/state line where you could buy booze on one side but had to drink it on the other or something like that.
 
Handyman said:
I believe there are dry counties in Kentucky and Tennessee. I remember seeing a story about a bar that was on the county/state line where you could buy booze on one side but had to drink it on the other or something like that.
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Jack Daniels is made in a dry county. They actually passed a special loophole to the ordinance to allow for tastings on site and for people to buy in their gift shop.
 
My grandfather moved my grandmother and himself to a dry county in Arkansas because she was an alcoholic. (She wasn’t, he was a controlling asshole and any drinking she did was because of a depression he was causing)

He didn’t pay enough attention to the map though, three blocks away was the county line and you bet your ass there was a liquor store/bar on that intersection. Grandma got into walking. Always came back in a better mood.
 
St. Clown said:
It’s illegal for anyone over the age of 21 to be dry in Wisconsin. It’s discouraged for all others.
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I was astounded when I learned that Wisconsin let’s people drink underage as long as they're with a parent. I mean, on the one hand, that is a good way to introduce people without hiding it and would theoretically mean less binging, but it’s wild that there’s not technically a minimum to that law.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
I was astounded when I learned that Wisconsin let’s people drink underage as long as they're with a parent. I mean, on the one hand, that is a good way to introduce people without hiding it and would theoretically mean less binging, but it’s wild that there’s not technically a minimum to that law.
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oh let me tell you, as a teen it was fun to work in the border town on the MN side and have people arguing with you about why their 13 year old can't have a beer
 
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