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Covfefe-19 The 11th Part: Suck It Up And Die Grandpa I Need A Manicure!!

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SJHovey said:
Again, I'll type it for the fourth time, I don't think you call anyone.

Let me ask you this, or for that matter, anyone else here who has been taking your position this afternoon on the subject of calling the cops on non-mask wearers.

Have any of you called 911 on a non-mask wearer? I know that every single person here has seen someone in public, in a store, or wherever, not wearing a mask. Did you pick up your cellphone and dial 911?

I'm going to guess no, because no one here wants to sound stupid or petty, and that's what you'd sound like.
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Someone gets in your face without a mask and you do nothing? Sorry, I don't believe you.

If someone punched you in the face, you would be ok with that? You are not going to die over it. On the other hand, someone gets in your face, and you can die this time. But that's not a big deal???

BUT- how about having a LITTLE empathy for other people. That's the biggest thing that people DO NOT HAVE. You think that everyone should think just like you and anything else is stupid and petty. You don't seem to recognize there are real people out there who are at real risk to their health if they get sick. They are scared crap less. Do you REALLY think they are stupid or petty for not wanting to get sick and die???

Here's your choice- either confront them, and risk serious backlash, or call the cops. Sometimes avoiding them is not a choice- especially if they are in the same room or perhaps there's a mobility issue that prevents you from moving.

I may not call the cops if I see a maskless person- but I'm not going to belittle other people who will or may because I just don't know their situation. Especially since we see daily people getting offended and in other's people faces when they are the ones not wearing a mask.

Don't be a snowflake that we all know you are.
 
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So question for people that are terrified or have a heightened amount of a anxiety around Covid 19.

I ask genuinely because I have zero heightened fear of this virus.

when you are are in a public setting and see someone without a mask do you genuinely fear for you safety? Let’s assume the maskless people are minding their own business not doing anything crazy, just going about their day.

If you fear for your safety in that type of setting does being in a setting with all masked people bring your level of fear and risk down to a level that you deem is now reasonable and you now feel comfortable?
 
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Handyman said:
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Post of the year. I want to shop at that place.

(Though, to be honest, even in this 61% Trumpie County, there's nearly 100% compliance with the masks in the grocery stores.)

So far, anyway...
 
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Are we at a point as a Country that we need some sort of Federal Govenrment involvement in personal health?

The fact of the matter is “your health” is no longer just your health. Your health is everyone’s health that you come in contact with, especially when it comes to respiratory and contagious diseases.

This government body would be in charge of improving individual health. For example everyone might meet with a government approved official once a year. If in good health, see you next year for your check up.

However, if not in good health you would have to follow certain regulations from your assigned official, diet, exercise, ect. Depending on the degree of unhealthyness the more involvement there would be. We could even look at fines for people who don’t follow their government approved program.

There is no question that respiratory diseases spread much more through unhealthy populations. It is Science. In fact it is as close to indisputable Science as there might be. Can anyone point to one study that says healthy people don’t fair better than unhealthy people or even that they fair they same? I highly doubt it.

It might very well be time for this type of program. Again your health is no longer just yours.

We are all in this together.
 
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rufus said:
132 dead in Florida today. From a state that is actively fudging the numbers.


But deaths are dropping. 'Stats' told me so.
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And with our current "leadership" cutting the CDC out of the loop, the numbers will just get better.

Isn't there a single Republican out there with a set of balls..?

(I know, silly question.)
 
I hate this downgrade- can't multi-quote. There is precedent for calling the police/authorities before all this political nonsense came into play. Typhoid Mary was physically removed and isolated on an island because she wouldn't stop working as a cook and kept spreading Typhoid. Pretty sure she died on that island. To this day if you have TB you are isolated until you are treated for a certain amount of time and cleared to leave your home. They actually require people who are non-compliant be observed taking their medicine, send people out to make sure they do.

TB has the same mode of transmission. We take that seriously. I have never heard of anyone being offended when they enforce the person being treated or don't allow them to wander around in public. Never heard anyone think it isn't a big deal when the person gets diagnosed- it makes the news, we test whole groups of people, classrooms of kids at schools, contact trace, follow up. No one would ever entertain the notion that we should just ignore it. If that was suggested people would think it was weird and stupid. TB takes a long time to kill you. It rarely is in fulminating form that kills rapidly.

It is completely baffling that anyone would think you should ignore someone who could be spewing virus that is extremely infectious and kills much more rapidly. When you stop to think about it- it is downright bizarre that anyone would be arguing that people should be able to wander around possibly infecting people with something that can kill them. More bizarre that anyone would think it is over-reaction to try to protect the populace by having someone enforce something that protects against death. It isn't like they made an arbitrary rule with no warning, no science. We even have the evidence of massive numbers of deaths in states before we knew better.

When you take out the politics and needing your side to be right it is plain weird to think this is an argument. We have people promoting flouting the laws put in place to protect against death and implying you should be ashamed for expecting someone to not do something that will kill. This. is. weird. And it shows us just how simplistic and infantile we have become about the concept of freedom to do what you want. If it causes another person harm- physical, financial - meh- that is their problem.
 
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Hovey would rather you stay home rather than venture into a public with a mask so that he the rest of the knuckle-draggers can walk around mask free.

Actually that's not a bad idea - the attrition rate might be worth it.
 
leswp1 said:
When you take out the politics and needing your side to be right it is plain weird to think this is an argument. We have people promoting flouting the laws put in place to protect against death and implying you should be ashamed for expecting someone to not do something that will kill. This. is. weird. And it shows us just how simplistic and infantile we have become about the concept of freedom to do what you want. If it causes another person harm- physical, financial - meh- that is their problem.
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Quoted for truth. Bravo.
 
leswp1 said:
When you take out the politics and needing your side to be right it is plain weird to think this is an argument. We have people promoting flouting the laws put in place to protect against death and implying you should be ashamed for expecting someone to not do something that will kill. This. is. weird. And it shows us just how simplistic and infantile we have become about the concept of freedom to do what you want. If it causes another person harm- physical, financial - meh- that is their problem.
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Because I also agree, and I know quoting and saying I agree annoys hovey. I'm sure it is just common sense to stay out of it, just like letting other people wander around potentially spreading expensive and deadly viruses.
 
Jeb2020 said:
Is there a top mask study in regards to Covid? Can some share what it is and link if possible?
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This study done by the Brits was posted on this forum earlier. I've referenced it a few times in Facebook discussions with my derp kuntry kuzins in rural Ohio (it didn't help...).

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/d...rspa.2020.0376

From section 4 Discussion:
Both of our models show that, under a wide range of plausible parameter conditions, facemask use by the public could significantly reduce the rate of COVID-19 spread, prevent further disease waves and allow less stringent lock-down regimes. The effect is greatest when 100% of the public wear facemasks.

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Our analyses from this model are consistent with the conclusions of practical studies on the use of professional and home-made facemasks to reduce exposure to respiratory infections among the public, where it was concluded that any type of general mask use is likely to decrease viral exposure and infection risk on a population level, in spite of imperfect fit and/or adherence.
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The faster reply would be to google "mask effectiveness" and add stuff to that- study, covid, etc. There are more studies are article about it than one is able to post at once.

And they all say the same thing- wearing a mask filters droplets on the way out preventing virus from getting out, and they also filter droplets on the way in, keeping viruses out. The rates of filtering is different, but both are an increase- to the point of being able to reduce the likelihood of getting an infectious dose.
 
Sometimes for sh*ts and giggles one can replace the words “COVID-19” with “AIDS” then imagine how the righty tighty whiteys would react. In this instance I use AIDS instead of HIV on purpose due to their freak out in the 80’s and how revolted they were when it was mentioned.
Even better, replace the debate of use of a face mask with a condom......Bet the “hoax” talk, “price of doing business “ talk would disappear in trumpyland and on fox....National emergency to the highest levels. Infection and mortality rates skyrocketing......Your fox headlines.

These frauds in charge now would mandate condoms or probably even outlaw sex, except for white baptists screwing in the missionary position.

Just imagine the different response from the trumpettes.....
 
alfablue said:
The faster reply would be to google "mask effectiveness" and add stuff to that- study, covid, etc. There are more studies are article about it than one is able to post at once.

And they all say the same thing- wearing a mask filters droplets on the way out preventing virus from getting out, and they also filter droplets on the way in, keeping viruses out. The rates of filtering is different, but both are an increase- to the point of being able to reduce the likelihood of getting an infectious dose.
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My general response to those asking...or flat out denying...mask effectiveness....is if they aren't effective...why are medical professionals wearing them then?
Havent had anyone come up with a well thought out reply to that yet
 
Wayuphere said:
Sometimes for sh*ts and giggles one can replace the words “COVID-19” with “AIDS” then imagine how the righty tighty whiteys would react. In this instance I use AIDS instead of HIV on purpose due to their freak out in the 80’s and how revolted they were when it was mentioned.
Even better, replace the debate of use of a face mask with a condom......Bet the “hoax” talk, “price of doing business “ talk would disappear in trumpyland and on fox....National emergency to the highest levels. Infection and mortality rates skyrocketing......Your fox headlines.

These frauds in charge now would mandate condoms or probably even outlaw sex, except for white baptists screwing in the missionary position.

Just imagine the different response from the trumpettes.....
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Weren't the "righty's" in charge in the 80's?
 
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