College Football 19-20: Where We Kinda Want Clemson As Champion.

[Jimjamesak]

Isn’t Alaska the only state without college football?

 

[bronconick]

Vermont has DIII football but otherwise, it's just Alaska

 

[mookie1995]

Typically it's:

#1 Football
#2 Basketball
#3 (local color)

There are schools where (local color) moves to 2 or even 1. At UMBC #1 is, and I swear I'm not making this up, Chess.

My impression is the schools where #1 is Hockey are: SLU, Clarkson, RPI, maybe Cornell (Football is weirdly still big among the Rich Olds), BU (I... guess?), maybe Maine (never quite sure where football is there), maybe Vermont (never quite sure where basketball is for them) and for the West, I dunno, CC? Denver? The UP schools?

Baseball is #1 at some schools in the southwestern belt -- Wichita State, Cal State Fullerton maybe? Problem for Baseball is it overlaps with Factory Football Schools (Pac Ten, SWC, SEC).

U Must Be Crazy :-D

 

[mookie1995]

There are?

Prep schools maybe.

Oxford

 

[Kepler]

Are we talking about student interest or money? Either way, I think football is probably still #1 in a lot of places you wouldn't even think, just given its power over entertainment and society. Football hasn't done squat at Cornell in decades, but as you mention it might still rake in more donations because of the pre-1970 history.

I wasn't thinking about donations. Concussionball will always be the biggest in donations because of the Football --> Business --> Rich Shmuck conveyor belt that ends in huge "gifts" (c.f. religious charities, police funds, conservative think tanks, and other authoritarian expressions of prestige).

I remember talking to a "development" (i.e., begging) professional about 15 years ago and asking when those 1940's Olds would finally start dying so hockey would become the #1 Cornell legacy donation and he kinda laughed and said, "Never -- the kind of person who makes huge public donations will always be for football. He's That Guy." I suppose we might have the occasional finance twatwaffle who does it for Lax.

I wasn't really thinking about just student interest, either, or I'd have had no problem ranking men's hockey #1 at Cornell (women's hockey is probably of higher student interest than football at this point, or at any rate it should be).

I was thinking about the undefinable sense of what the most "important" sport is at the school -- the very thing that is so weird about Cornell football still hanging on like a malignant tumor despite its half century of utter uselessness and hockey's qualitative superiority on every metric.

 

[Kepler]

I think there's some other state that a football stadium is the largest stadium/arena in 48 of 50 states (I want to say the other 2 are Alaska and Vermont), partly because it requires more seats, but partly because in places where you wouldn't think people care about football, they still do. Football controls the eyes and money everywhere unless there's a strong force saying otherwise.

Isn't a college football coach the highest paid public sector employee in about 45 states?

 

[French Rage]

Isn't a college football coach the highest paid public sector employee in about 45 states?

That or basketball.

 

[Kepler]

Buffalo has won a bowl game.

 

[Kepler]

That or basketball.

Yep. Congratulations to the blue states on this map. Everybody else sucks.

I retract everything I've said about the Dakotas. Not Mass though -- they're still losers.

 

[dxmnkd316]

If it’s a plastic surgeon in NV, I’m guessing it’s a pioneer in a field like sexual realignment (reassignment didn’t sound great to me and I have no idea what the correct medical term is now). Otherwise I can’t imagine a plastic surgeon being on staff at most universities especially not at the highest paid position.

I vaguely recall Minnesota was a pioneer in “reassignment” in the early days, but I might be thinking of some other major surgery. Heart transplant? I have no idea.

 

[Spartanforlife4]

Hockey is, by far, #1 at North Dakota. One of the stories I like to tell about my time at UND was in 2001:

The football team was playing in the D2 NCAA National Championship game. They had a tremendous season, and won the game with a last minute (and seemingly improbable) touchdown drive. It was the school's first national title in football. A group of freshman tried to get a rally together to greet the team when they returned. That same weekend, the hockey team was playing in Wisconsin. The hockey team was the worst of the Blais era (I believe his only group that finished below .500), and got swept by the Badgers. The two teams returned to campus at approximately the same time, and the group there to meet the hockey team (then 5-9-1) numbered about 10x the size of the group there to meet the football team.

You can also look at other things to show how hockey towers over the other sports programs at North Dakota (e.g. media coverage, ticket cost, attendance, etc.), but I always felt that story showed the relative importance of hockey to football (the #2 at UND).

Is meeting the hockey team a regular thing? I’ve only heard of that as a thing for championships/historic wins.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

I assumed that when kep mentioned North Dakota football he was referring to NDSU

 

[Kepler]

I assumed that when kep mentioned North Dakota football he was referring to NDSU

Yes. I mean, I guess. If it's west of Carnegie Mellon and east of UCLA it's not a university, it's a trade school.

So yeah, I was conflating the Sioux and the... uh... Fighting Frackers?

 

[Kepler]

I vaguely recall Minnesota was a pioneer in “reassignment” in the early days, but I might be thinking of some other major surgery. Heart transplant? I have no idea.

Are those guys on the state payroll even when they're at a state hospital or university? I always figure they have fingers in various private pies for the bloatloot.

 

[Kepler]

Yikes.

DALLAS (AP) — Ty Jordan, a star freshman running back for the University of Utah who grew up in the Dallas area, has died, school officials announced Saturday.

Authorities in Texas and Utah have not released details about the circumstances of the Jordan’s death. A day earlier, the 19 year old was named Pac-12’s newcomer of the year.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

If it’s a plastic surgeon in NV, I’m guessing it’s a pioneer in a field like sexual realignment (reassignment didn’t sound great to me and I have no idea what the correct medical term is now). Otherwise I can’t imagine a plastic surgeon being on staff at most universities especially not at the highest paid position.

I vaguely recall Minnesota was a pioneer in “reassignment” in the early days, but I might be thinking of some other major surgery. Heart transplant? I have no idea.

I remember in Silence of the Lambs when Hannibal lecter is speaking to Jodie foster and talking about a suspect and he said that university of Minnesota was one of the only places to offer the surgery . I think that was based off actual facts back then

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Yikes.

Yeah, terribly sad story. The article I had read indicated that he accidentally shot himself. Terrible, terrible news.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Yeah it sounds like a gunshot (accidental)

 

[WisconsinWildcard]

Are those guys on the state payroll even when they're at a state hospital or university? I always figure they have fingers in various private pies for the bloatloot.

Most docs who work at a state hospital get a small portion of their salary from the state/university and then a larger amount from the "private" health care company that basically has the same name. So if you look up a physicians salary, it will be like 50k even though it may be 200K to 500K depending on the specialty (hint plastic/orthopedic/neurosurgeon).

Then if you have appointment at the VA it gets even more complicated and you get 3 separate paychecks and benefits.

 

[Kepler]

Most docs who work at a state hospital get a small portion of their salary from the state/university and then a larger amount from the "private" health care company that basically has the same name. So if you look up a physicians salary, it will be like 50k even though it may be 200K to 500K depending on the specialty (hint plastic/orthopedic/neurosurgeon).

Why do it that way?

I mean, I assume it's a scam, but I can't figure out the scam in this instance.

Is it a way for the institution to run on private donations but still rake in public funding? Or a way to hide their profits so they can duck taxes and qualify for other state and federal goodies?