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The Barr Has Been Raised at UMaine

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Strange how the UMaine thread has become a football thread, and the UNH thread a soccer thread.

Signs of the times, eh? Anyway, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and happy holidays to all!!!
 
Fishman'81 said:
He looks like a good catch, but Fagnano isn't half bad, either. Football would have likely gotten a berth this year had Fagnano been able to play for the first half of the season.

I suppose the question now is who will transfer before the other.
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Football team's non-conference schedule next year is @ New Mexico, @ BC, home to Colgate. Hope they can get one win, and then go 6-2 against the CAA, because otherwise no playoffs.
 
AMC said:
Football team's non-conference schedule next year is @ New Mexico, @ BC, home to Colgate. Hope they can get one win, and then go 6-2 against the CAA, because otherwise no playoffs.
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New Mexico is no juggernaut, Colgate is eminently beatable... No chance v. BC in all likelihood, but, again, the FCS selection process doesn't consider the FBS games, unless you win them.

FCS went 12-105 v. FBS this season, with Maine getting one of the 12 wins, and earning $675K in the process.

Why not take the money when the games are essentially irrelevant anyway?
 
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A little bit on Maine Hockey and Maine Football as the year comes to an end... I can see Maine Hockey not adding anyone for the 2nd semester, I think they go with what they have and make the adjustments with what they have at the present time in terms of moving forwards to defense or vice versa...I see a huge change in the roster by this coming spring with Grad. Students/ Seniors/ and under classmen leaving. This team will look a whole lot different by 75% imo...and with that said I don't see this team winning more than 5 games for the 2021-22 season. This is a total REBUILD, not retooling/tweaking the roster....total rebuild period. Maine Football first 3 games have come out and I think they can come out of it 2-1...possible "IF" the QB is healthy, they have an established running game...shore up their secondary and the BIG ONE for the new Head Coach= DISCIPLINE, this team shoots itself in the foot over and over with senseless penalty's, mostly on personal fouls...sometimes 4 to 5 per game plus other penalty's....this has been going on the last 4 years that this team lacks discipline....well my .02 for the day/end of the year...hope all are well and the New Year 2022 brings high hopes for Maine sports programs..!!!
 
Ma#1ne Hky said:
A little bit on Maine Hockey and Maine Football as the year comes to an end... I can see Maine Hockey not adding anyone for the 2nd semester, I think they go with what they have and make the adjustments with what they have at the present time in terms of moving forwards to defense or vice versa...I see a huge change in the roster by this coming spring with Grad. Students/ Seniors/ and under classmen leaving. This team will look a whole lot different by 75% imo...and with that said I don't see this team winning more than 5 games for the 2021-22 season. This is a total REBUILD, not retooling/tweaking the roster....total rebuild period. Maine Football first 3 games have come out and I think they can come out of it 2-1...possible "IF" the QB is healthy, they have an established running game...shore up their secondary and the BIG ONE for the new Head Coach= DISCIPLINE, this team shoots itself in the foot over and over with senseless penalty's, mostly on personal fouls...sometimes 4 to 5 per game plus other penalty's....this has been going on the last 4 years that this team lacks discipline....well my .02 for the day/end of the year...hope all are well and the New Year 2022 brings high hopes for Maine sports programs..!!!
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One thing I’m very curious about is what happens with the interest in Maine hockey next year? Six months ago I don’t think many of us would have believed things would have gone so horribly wrong with Covid and obviously it has been a rough season on the ice as well. Will a lot of people give up/move on to other things or will there still be much interest/hope?
 
Drew S. said:
One thing I’m very curious about is what happens with the interest in Maine hockey next year? Six months ago I don’t think many of us would have believed things would have gone so horribly wrong with Covid and obviously it has been a rough season on the ice as well. Will a lot of people give up/move on to other things or will there still be much interest/hope?
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Orono being Orono, they'll be some interest in hockey no matter what.

But, if Maine starts to win, the Alfond will fill up in a hurry.
 
Fishman'81 said:
New Mexico is no juggernaut, Colgate is eminently beatable... No chance v. BC in all likelihood, but, again, the FCS selection process doesn't consider the FBS games, unless you win them.

FCS went 12-105 v. FBS this season, with Maine getting one of the 12 wins, and earning $675K in the process.

Why not take the money when the games are essentially irrelevant anyway?
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Because if Maine plays two FBS games and loses them, and then goes 5-3 in the CAA, Maine will have a 6-3 FCS record. 6 wins is historically not enough for playoff consideration.

If Maine instead goes 2-1 in the nonconference, and then goes 5-3 in the CAA, Maine will have a 7-3 FCS record, which is close to a lock.

By playing two FBS games, Maine needs to go 6-2 in CAA play to feel comfortable come selection Sunday.
 
AMC said:
Because if Maine plays two FBS games and loses them, and then goes 5-3 in the CAA, Maine will have a 6-3 FCS record. 6 wins is historically not enough for playoff consideration.

If Maine instead goes 2-1 in the nonconference, and then goes 5-3 in the CAA, Maine will have a 7-3 FCS record, which is close to a lock.

By playing two FBS games, Maine needs to go 6-2 in CAA play to feel comfortable come selection Sunday.
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But, as you so often point-out, Maine can use all the sports revenue it can get... Playing (and even losing) v. FBS teams is a reliable cash-stream, and the results of those games generally mean Jack. (Get it, already?)

The CAA will be a dog-fight next year with JMU gone, and 6 wins is definitely a possibility for Maine and a few other teams, in that context.

Maine is an FCS factor, and has been for years and years, while hockey has been moribund for around 10 years now...

Not picking a fight, but I truly don't understand why you (and others) consistently undermine the biggest-profile sport on campus right now. (Football.) I would love to see hockey get back to some level of respectability, but that possibility is just that right now...

A possibility, and nothing more.
 
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Fishman'81 said:
But, as you so often point-out, Maine can use all the sports revenue it can get... Playing (and even losing) v. FBS teams is a reliable cash-stream, and the results of those games generally mean Jack. (Get it, already?)

The CAA will be a dog-fight next year with JMU gone, and 6 wins is definitely a possibility for Maine and a few other teams, in that context.

Maine is an FCS factor, and has been for years and years, while hockey has been moribund for around 10 years now...

Not picking a fight, but I truly don't understand why you (and others) consistently undermine the biggest-profile sport on campus right now. (Football.) I would love to see hockey get back to some level of respectability, but that possibility is just that right now...

A possibility, and nothing more.
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Because if you are giving up some of your odds to play for a national title in order to make money, you aren't a serious athletic program. I disagree that Maine is a "factor" in FCS- one run to the semifinals (which resulted in an ass kicking), and a few one and dones in the playoffs aren't a "factor," that's an "attendee." Maine is as far away from being able to beat North Dakota State or South Dakota State as Maine hockey is from winning a national title.

I also question the value of playing FCS football, in general. There's value in Maine being nationally competitive against the Michigans, Minnesotas, BC's, etc. of the world. I'm not sure what the University gains by spending late November and December flying to rural Washington or Utah or South Dakota on a week's notice if they make/go far in the FCS playoffs. And by basically saying "sure, we could make the playoffs if we scheduled one FBS team, but that's less important than trying to not lose multiple millions on this sport," the University is admitting as much.
 
But even if Maine FB does beat a North or South Dakota State, they still won’t ever be tops in their sport. College football supremacy belongs to the Alabamas of the NCAA and Maine will never contend with them. Hockey? Absolutely, they have before and will again play and beat the “Alabamas” of hockey.
It’s an apple and orange comparison.
 
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