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Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020

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Wow look at the Bootlicker Fascist Covidians melt because people don’t want to play Covid indefinitely.


On another note: Newsflash, being healthy is where it is at. The data and science is overwhelming supportive of this.

Your Health Is Your Responsibility
 
ScoobyDoo said:
Tell that to all the children born with birth defects you fucking moron.
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Trends are clearly looking really good- if the data from "Our World in Data" is accurate, the US is down to 65k hospitalized from a peak of 150k a month ago.

Hopefully this goes down to the level pre-Delta back last July when it was down to 12k.

The more delayed deaths is still pretty close to the Delta peak as it declines.

Can't really declare this is over until it's far more predictable- as these surges mean we have no real clue what the future brings. But it's also interesting how impatient people are- since we are still having numbers in the Delta range and we are lifting masking and whatnot. Hope that works out

Good for our plans- if the trends follow 12 months ago, our travel plans for May will be very safe.

BTW, what in the world are the truckers protesting about? The only real national mandate is masking in airports and on flights. That's it. There are very few states that have more restrictions to prevent any significant movement of people. Talk about people who want to get into cancel culture- since they are literally protesting nothing. Any vaccine requirements are from individual companies- who should be allowed to do what they think is safe for them and their company.
 
They aren't truckers. They are rightwing anti-vaxxer, anti-government radicals using the truckers and the mandates as a cover for their actions.
 
rufus said:
They aren't truckers. They are rightwing anti-vaxxer, anti-government radicals using the truckers and the mandates as a cover for their actions.
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Whatever you call them, what are they protesting over? Again, the only real mandate that is national is masks in airports and flights. It's not actually preventing movement- except for those whiners who apparently think they speak shit, since they call them face diapers. Seeing the Canada-Russia hockey game should clearly dispel any claims that people can't breathe from masks.

Are they demanding that companies are not allowed to protect their workers and customers?
 
MichVandal said:
Trends are clearly looking really good- if the data from "Our World in Data" is accurate, the US is down to 65k hospitalized from a peak of 150k a month ago.

Hopefully this goes down to the level pre-Delta back last July when it was down to 12k.

The more delayed deaths is still pretty close to the Delta peak as it declines.

Can't really declare this is over until it's far more predictable- as these surges mean we have no real clue what the future brings. But it's also interesting how impatient people are- since we are still having numbers in the Delta range and we are lifting masking and whatnot. Hope that works out

Good for our plans- if the trends follow 12 months ago, our travel plans for May will be very safe.

BTW, what in the world are the truckers protesting about? The only real national mandate is masking in airports and on flights. That's it. There are very few states that have more restrictions to prevent any significant movement of people. Talk about people who want to get into cancel culture- since they are literally protesting nothing. Any vaccine requirements are from individual companies- who should be allowed to do what they think is safe for them and their company.
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Right but you can't predict COVID. It's not seasonal and unless it devolves into something a lot less contagious, it never will be.


Predictability lies solely in genetic monitoring which will never be good enough or fast enough to head anything off.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Right but you can't predict COVID. It's not seasonal and unless it devolves into something a lot less contagious, it never will be.


Predictability lies solely in genetic monitoring which will never be good enough or fast enough to head anything off.
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Well, it's seasonal in that it follows seasonal behavior. As people go inside (due to heat or cold), it goes up.


Here in MA, we're about where we were early-ish in the Delta wave from last August in terms of cases and hospitalizations and positivity rate. The only difference is the trending direction at the moment.


BA.2 is showing to be a big more infectious than BA.1, but it seems to be so similar structurally that BA.1 infection is still providing substantial immunity to it, so that's good. It isn't getting its own name, which is another telltale sign that while it's something for the nerds to track, most of us don't need to worry about it further.
 
J.D. said:
Calling people impatient after two years...hysterical.
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I didn't call you hysterical, but I am calling you #notevenwrong. The facts and the science do not care about your impatience. This is just like climate change. "I can't accept your findings because of jobs and profits." No. No, that's not how facts work.
 
Swansong said:
Well, it's seasonal in that it follows seasonal behavior. As people go inside (due to heat or cold), it goes up.


Here in MA, we're about where we were early-ish in the Delta wave from last August in terms of cases and hospitalizations and positivity rate. The only difference is the trending direction at the moment.


BA.2 is showing to be a big more infectious than BA.1, but it seems to be so similar structurally that BA.1 infection is still providing substantial immunity to it, so that's good. It isn't getting its own name, which is another telltale sign that while it's something for the nerds to track, most of us don't need to worry about it further.
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Maybe. We haven't really seen true seasonal limitations. Delta was in the summer, B117 was spring, Omicron was early fall. None of these were really impacted by seasonal changes, at least not definitively in my mind (I would certainly concede they were influenced by behaviors, but would disagree that the waves were caused by seasonal behaviors).

All of the major waves followed within weeks of first discovery and we saw the worldwide spread in all regions. The only difference was monitoring, NPIs, vaccination status, and isolation.

Which isn't to say it can't be seasonal, I just don't think something as contagious as omicron can become seasonal. Outbreaks and waves will happen throughout the year. It will certainly be made somewhat worse by moving indoors (winter in the north and summer in the south). But who knows. It's already burned through every susceptible person. So god only knows what the next variant will do to spread. It's going to have to be different enough to escape vaccine and omicron immunity and be viable enough to spread in that environment. So maybe it's most likely chance of survival is the flu-like seasonality where it's lost in the noise every summer and explodes during the winter after our first wave immune response wanes.

Maybe I just talked myself into agreeing with you. :-)
 
And I think you're right about BA2. I'm guessing it's a nothingburger relative to the last names storms, assuming that BA1 affords decent protection.
 
The variant-led waves would be totally separate from seasonality anyway. I'm not necessarily saying you're wrong overall, but that's not a great way to measure it.

I've read a bunch lately about the seasonality and the consensus seems to be ... lacking. about coronaviruses in general. Which is why I'd argue that seasonal-led behavior is a big driver.
 
Swansong said:
The variant-led waves would be totally separate from seasonality anyway. I'm not necessarily saying you're wrong overall, but that's not a great way to measure it.

I've read a bunch lately about the seasonality and the consensus seems to be ... lacking. about coronaviruses in general. Which is why I'd argue that seasonal-led behavior is a big driver.
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I think that's all fair. In general, I agree there is a lack of consensus. I just don't think we know since 99% of all infections to this point seem to be variant-driven. I think we're at least a year away from basic data much less compelling data (years away).
 
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