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Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020

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Whatever you call them, what are they protesting over? Again, the only real mandate that is national is masks in airports and flights. It's not actually preventing movement- except for those whiners who apparently think they speak ****, since they call them face diapers. Seeing the Canada-Russia hockey game should clearly dispel any claims that people can't breathe from masks.

Are they demanding that companies are not allowed to protect their workers and customers?

Do rightwing whiny titty babies need a reason to pout and whine and gin up faux outrage about something?

Its what they do. Its the only thing they're good at
 
I think that's all fair. In general, I agree there is a lack of consensus. I just don't think we know since 99% of all infections to this point seem to be variant-driven. I think we're at least a year away from basic data much less compelling data (years away).

You're probably right about that.
 
And yet what? I am vaccinated and boosted, have wore a mask, etc. Maybe you should know your audience.

I have not participated in any pile on here, but I want to ask what your issue is?

People aren't really screaming at you ("you" being the vaccinated folks that have tried to follow the guidelines), the ire is 100% directed at the trolls like jeb and cretins who believe him.


I took your post to me (about not feeling bad for having a party) at face value, and you're likely right that I shouldn't feel weird. But like Scarlet, we all open up on our own schedules. Mine is ahead of Scarlet's. Possibly behind yours. It's all good.
 
And yet what? I am vaccinated and boosted, have wore a mask, etc. Maybe you should know your audience.

You are the only one pretending that people have an issue with what swan was doing. And you are getting hysterical about it. Let alone trying to make yourself a victim.

So what the fuck is your point?
 
I took your post to me (about not feeling bad for having a party) at face value, and you're likely right that I shouldn't feel weird. But like Scarlet, we all open up on our own schedules. Mine is ahead of Scarlet's. Possibly behind yours. It's all good.

I have no issue at all with Scarlet choosing to live her life the way she does. Has no impact on me. I was just amused by you throwing in "I know I know" like you were expecting some kind of backlash from the sheep on this thread for having 10 people over two years into a pandemic.
 
I will give props to anyone who can decipher MichVandal's posts though. That takes a superior intellect.

Refuted, because I understood them fine. Yours, though... I can't decipher what you want, other than a statue for your suffering.

I get you want to be irresponsible and not get called out. I want to be 6-3. We both need to get used to disappointment.
 
I have no issue at all with Scarlet choosing to live her life the way she does. Has no impact on me. I was just amused by you throwing in "I know I know" like you were expecting some kind of backlash from the sheep on this thread for having 10 people over two years into a pandemic.

You start off reasonable but then when you call people sheep for pointing out that cretins are cretins and you lose me. Never mind, I guess.
 
Refuted, because I understood them fine. Yours, though... I can't decipher what you want, other than a statue for your suffering.

I get you want to be irresponsible and not get called out. I want to be 6-3. We both need to get used to disappointment.

Ok so what is being irresponsible then? Please enlighten me. What have I called for that you find irresponsible?
 
Trends are clearly looking really good- if the data from "Our World in Data" is accurate, the US is down to 65k hospitalized from a peak of 150k a month ago.

Hopefully this goes down to the level pre-Delta back last July when it was down to 12k.

The more delayed deaths is still pretty close to the Delta peak as it declines.

Can't really declare this is over until it's far more predictable- as these surges mean we have no real clue what the future brings. But it's also interesting how impatient people are- since we are still having numbers in the Delta range and we are lifting masking and whatnot. Hope that works out

Good for our plans- if the trends follow 12 months ago, our travel plans for May will be very safe.

BTW, what in the world are the truckers protesting about? The only real national mandate is masking in airports and on flights. That's it. There are very few states that have more restrictions to prevent any significant movement of people. Talk about people who want to get into cancel culture- since they are literally protesting nothing. Any vaccine requirements are from individual companies- who should be allowed to do what they think is safe for them and their company.
I am impatient with the impatient. ::insert rolleyes emoji here::
There has been NO concerted, consistent effort to do what we need so of course it is still going on. You pretend something doesn't exist then expect it to magically go away and where does that get you?

Scientific American had a great article about how the messaging has shifted to the need to get back to normal and dismissed the cost and death. As said in the article it dismisses an awfully large portion of the population= the young, the old, the immunocompromised, those unable to be vaccinated and all those who work in places where they are expected to martyr themselves and put themselves at risk because people need to get back to normal. First it was only gong to be the vulnerable and they said it would matter if it got the general population. Then it hit the general population and they said wellllll if it hit the children... then it hit the kids and they said NBD.

The comments on mildness of Omicron- only if you are vaxed. Waiting to see the cost to all the Orange states- death, hospitalization and long covid in a population with poor access to healthcare, poor insurance coverage and reliance on Fed $ to rescue them. Feds ain't going to be able to dig them out of the hole and the collateral damage to families/communities is going to be nasty
 
The comments on mildness of Omicron- only if you are vaxed. Waiting to see the cost to all the Orange states- death, hospitalization and long covid in a population with poor access to healthcare, poor insurance coverage and reliance on Fed $ to rescue them. Feds ain't going to be able to dig them out of the hole and the collateral damage to families/communities is going to be nasty

While this is true, almost all of the people you describe here could easily help themselves by getting the free, easily available vaccine. How much longer should the rest of us to who the risk is similar to any other cold or flu we have dealt with for years continue to upend our lives to protect those who are too stupid to do anything to protect themselves?
 
to protect those who are too stupid to do anything to protect themselves?

If it were only they I would say open up today, but there are many, many people who would love to get vaccinated but can't. We are protecting them. The anti-vaxxers can all fall off Darwin's mechanical bull and no one will shed a tear.

I would say if you could have been vaxxed but weren't you get no insurance dollars, private or public. Fuck you.
 
Community spread is a big factor too. In MA, for example, cases seem to have leveled off a bit around 1200ish a day. But positivity rate continues to drop (7 day average at 2.21%) and hospitalizations continue to plummet.

That just isn't a lot of spread right now here, and the trend is dropping (slowly now, but previously dropping quickly). I'd anticipate a small bump/continued plateau as restrictions are further lifted but I'll say this again - in this state there's virtually no one left that's truly immune naive.

If I go out right now, my chances of encountering someone with an active Covid infection (symptomatic or non-symptomatic) are as low as they've been since the summer of 2021, as the Delta wave was just beginning.
 
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