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US Foreign Policy 3.0: We're The Mets of International Diplomacy
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bronconick
Yep, still here
Waiting for the military coup to stay in power in 3...2....1....
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
In the old days, the US would be right there helping Bolsonaro behind the scenes.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Well Bannon and Ali Akexander are saying he can't concede...
It's up to the Brazil Military if they will back any coup attempt or not.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
The Brazilian military always wants stability. In the past, they would coup a Leftist because they knew the US would destabilize any democratically-elected Leftist government in the hemisphere. In this case, with the Dems in charge, and Bolsanaro being a complete nutter, the military is very likely to pass on saving this rat turd even though he's a Righty.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Did Kepler know the White House held a 70th birdthday party for duke ellington? And Nixon played hbd on the piano for him??
MichVandal
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So in this war between Ukraine and Russia, millions of people have fled their countries- more for Ukraine than russia.
I wonder what will it take for the people to return? Whoever leads either country will really, really need to set up a country that attracts their former citizens back. Given how things were progressing, it *seems* that Ukraine will be more capable- even with massive change in russia. But will it be enough?
I wonder what will it take for the people to return? Whoever leads either country will really, really need to set up a country that attracts their former citizens back. Given how things were progressing, it *seems* that Ukraine will be more capable- even with massive change in russia. But will it be enough?
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
I'd be curious to see the statistics, but I would think that refugees almost never return home once they've resettled in the country that accepts their refugee status. Even if their home country were safe again, the cost of returning vs. assimilating in the host country ends up being too great for many of them unless they are forced to return due to visa issues or a criminal record. And the Russian draft dodgers will almost assuredly face a summary trial and prison time if they return, no matter who is in charge.
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MichVandal
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Me, too- but a video I watched this morning suggests that the refugees that have left Ukraine are in the multi millions. Which means the long term effects will be worse for them even looking at the young people leaving russia.
MichVandal
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It will be faster than England was able to rebuild. Especially since there are a ton of countries very happy to trade grain for parts.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
The West will rebuild Ukraine to (1) entice them to join the alliance against Russia, (2) exploit Western taxpayers by skimming the profits from reconstruction and cycling them back to the personal accounts of Western owners (see Iraq War), and (3) ensure Ukraine does not commit to an economic model which, if successful, would serve labor and threaten global capitalist feudalism (see Marshall Plan, Four Asian Tigers).
All of these projects entail the personal sacrifice of the Western middle class and the victimized nation's poor to enrich the Western plutes and the victimized nation's Quislings. This is how the American imperialist model works. It is, to be fair, a lot less mean than the Belgian, German, and Spanish ones, and morally equivalent to the British, Dutch, and French ones.
All of these projects entail the personal sacrifice of the Western middle class and the victimized nation's poor to enrich the Western plutes and the victimized nation's Quislings. This is how the American imperialist model works. It is, to be fair, a lot less mean than the Belgian, German, and Spanish ones, and morally equivalent to the British, Dutch, and French ones.
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Kepler
Si certus es dubita
China is even more naked aggressive and self-serving than we were. For a subtle people they still do international financial extortion really poorly. They need their equivalent of Bretton Woods, the IMF, and the World Bank to really suck all the profit out of the developing world while claiming to be acting as a philanthropic angel.
The question: where's the money going to come from? The American middle class have been hollowed out by the perpetuation of Reaganomics for forty years. The only way to do it might be to tax the rich 99%, and the rich have shown they will literally use their goons to end democracy when threatened with a raise in their tax rates of 5%.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
China would give them the money to rebuild their infrastructure, run the construction projects, then take it all over when they failed to pay back the loan.
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